Post mortem on relics from 4.0

[LaylaTsarra]

There are better ways to spend your time than doing useless and bad content for 0 rewards.

Stop pushing your idea of fun and what you happen to like on others. You don't like the content, we got it. Others enjoy it quite a bit. Sorry if that doesn't fit in with your little perception of how the game should be played. The zone is filled with people doing relic and it will be for quite some time.

[Leanna]

Stop pushing your idea of fun and what you like on others. You don't like the content, We got it. Others enjoy it quite a bit. Sorry if that doesn't fit in with your little perception of how the game should be played.

Better be happy with the worst and laziest content SE throws at us instead of ask for better content ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you want F2P quality content, go play a F2P MMO instead?

[AnimaAnimus]

The zone is filled with people doing relic .

See this issue with this argument. The zone holds, what...150 ppl? And that is for a whole data center. So you cant really tell how many ppl are doing it without knowing how many instances are active. 150 ppl for 10+ servers isn't really good to go by. Esp since when I was still doing Eureka I would often leave after an hour or so, eat and reenter the exact same instance. That doesn't make it seem like a whole lot of them are up at once.

This is by far the laziest argument and the one that is easiest to poke holes in. We need much more concrete data than "This one zone is full" and last I read from the unofficial census its only like 9% or even less, active subs that have gotten even a Pyros weapon which is significantly lower than the ARR and SB versions which I believe were over 40% and 30% respectively, while still current.

[Laphael]

See this issue with this argument. The zone holds, what...150 ppl? And that is for a whole data center. So you cant really tell how many ppl are doing it without knowing how many instances are active. 150 ppl for 10+ servers isn't really good to go by. Esp since when I was still doing Eureka I would often leave after an hour or so, eat and reenter the exact same instance. That doesn't make it seem like a whole lot of them are up at once.

This is by far the laziest argument and the one that is easiest to poke holes in. We need much more concrete data than "This one zone is full" and last I read from the unofficial census its only like 9% or even less, active subs that have gotten even a Pyros weapon which is significantly lower than the ARR and SB versions which I believe were over 40% and 30% respectively, while still current.

Don´t spread missinformation pls.

sooo, the latest Lucky Bancho Lodestone census is out, this time including some numbers for Eureka. According to those, the number of active players per region that have started Eureka is:
58,8% JP
41,4% NA
44,2% EU

and the number of active players that have reached the Pyros level cap of 50 is:
18,6% JP
5,8% NA
7,3% EU

You forgot the part where anima was only done by 9.15% by March 2017.

[LaylaTsarra]

See this issue with this argument. The zone holds, what...150 ppl? And that is for a whole data center. So you cant really tell how many ppl are doing it without knowing how many instances are active. 150 ppl for 10+ servers isn't really good to go by. Esp since when I was still doing Eureka I would often leave after an hour or so, eat and reenter the exact same instance. That doesn't make it seem like a whole lot of them are up at once.

This is by far the laziest argument and the one that is easiest to poke holes in. We need much more concrete data than "This one zone is full" and last I read from the unofficial census its only like 9% or even less, active subs that have gotten even a Pyros weapon which is significantly lower than the ARR and SB versions which I believe were over 40% and 30% respectively, while still current.

Oh really... someone posted the numbers in the previous post. How about you get your facts straight before accusing someone of having a lazy argument. I'd also like to know how many of those heavensward relics include the uber nerfed process for getting them as well. Oddly the developers have said that this relic was a lot more popular than they expected and those numbers seem to verify that.