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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I really, really, REALLY dislike the RNG nature of the stats in the 4.0 relic.

    It speaks to lazy design that doesn't respect the player's time.
    This I wholeheartidly agree with we hated it when doing conversions for materia in ARR we hated it when we had to get dungeon drops we most certainly hate it to make the weapon usuable
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    I really, really, REALLY dislike the RNG nature of the stats in the 4.0 relic.

    It speaks to lazy design that doesn't respect the player's time.
    Yes but i don't think its lazy design its like this on purpose to keep at least pyros longer alive. If you could choose your stats most people wouldn't set foot in there after they are done.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    I feel like all they might really need to do to make sure people can still do Eureka post SB is just to remove the sync on the zones. Eureka has kept us synced at what, ilvl 300 the whole time to emphasize the elemental level system, but what happens if you let in level 80 players with ivl 500 gear? Or wherever gear ends up at at 5.0 endgame. Sprinkle in some nerfs to make NMs easier to spawn or a blanket nerf to all the enemies and grinding out Eureka in the future shouldn't be too bad.
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Maduin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    People forget the old relics are still doable and people keep doing them today. Eureka will die in 5.0 and no one will ever touch it again (not even Eureka lovers).
    Lol, this is false.

    I can at least tell you that I will come back long after its dead.

    Why? Easy ... Bunny fates and warped boxes.

    There's glam and mounts and hair locked in them there instances! I can get tons of grade 5/6 from the locked boxes. Just selling the 5s to vender has made me over a mil gil. And since the bunny fate scales with the amount of players in an instance you can solo them.
    I soloed at least 4 in an empty pyros instance as a non level cap war with no logos. Plus elemental +2 gear will make soloing warped box mobs easy so you can farm that alone and get the minions and emotes.

    At this point getting the beefed up gear is an investment in the future where I can have the whole instance as my profit playground. The only thing I feel like there's a time limit on is crystals. Idk how easily you can solo a nm fate with fully element gear but even in a instance by myself I had to nope out of the one I tried after 2 hits.

    But yeah ... I'm saving some of the cool drops I've had for the future. A few months to a year into 5.0 in sure many eureka locked items will be hard to come by on the cheap.
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Lol, this is false.

    I can at least tell you that I will come back long after its dead.

    Why? Easy ... Bunny fates and warped boxes.

    There's glam and mounts and hair locked in them there instances! I can get tons of grade 5/6 from the locked boxes. Just selling the 5s to vender has made me over a mil gil. And since the bunny fate scales with the amount of players in an instance you can solo them.
    I soloed at least 4 in an empty pyros instance as a non level cap war with no logos. Plus elemental +2 gear will make soloing warped box mobs easy so you can farm that alone and get the minions and emotes.

    At this point getting the beefed up gear is an investment in the future where I can have the whole instance as my profit playground. The only thing I feel like there's a time limit on is crystals. Idk how easily you can solo a nm fate with fully element gear but even in a instance by myself I had to nope out of the one I tried after 2 hits.

    But yeah ... I'm saving some of the cool drops I've had for the future. A few months to a year into 5.0 in sure many eureka locked items will be hard to come by on the cheap.
    They can easily remove the elemental level and ilvl sync. And ta da! you can solo everything lol. As for selling V materias, I suggest going to Mutamix and use them lol. If you get gathering or crafting Vs (and sometimes if you're lucky you get VIs) then those sell for higher price in MB. I got tons of millions just selling gathering V and VIs (I even Mutamix useless VIs for bigger chance of gathering and crafting VIs).
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    They can easily remove the elemental level and ilvl sync. And ta da! you can solo everything lol. As for selling V materias, I suggest going to Mutamix and use them lol. If you get gathering or crafting Vs (and sometimes if you're lucky you get VIs) then those sell for higher price in MB. I got tons of millions just selling gathering V and VIs (I even Mutamix useless VIs for bigger chance of gathering and crafting VIs).
    Yeah, just found out about that earlier today ... Completely forgot about that npc! I just vender to free up space but now I have a new plan :3

    And I'm sure they're gonna nerf eureka to the ground at some point to make it easier to get your relic. Not sure how far they will go but it will only get easier.

    But the fun part is that NEW stuff will still be added to the game AND many think that thw relics 4.0 relics look like unfinished trash!
    so those who aren't interested in eureka enuff to bother with it now will likely not bother with it even later in favor of just working on new stuff.

    So more profit for people who got through it and are willing to go back for the loot lol
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