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Thread: Ozma Mount

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    Yeah, it's just optional content within optional content. It's just a little something else to do once you're done with Eureka Hydatos (once you're done weapon, armour and logos farming).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    And here, ladys and gentlemen, we see how Square Enix gets people into Eureka.

    "Lets add something unique into content almost nobody likes so it looks like almost everybody likes it!"
    No

    More like "lets give people rewards for doing this content"

    Like ... Ya know .. Everything in this game.
    Why would I ever set foot into "kill everything here before you can procide" areas that they call "dungeons" when I'm already max level and don't need exp?

    I get tomes if I need them and some gil. But mostly I would only bother with it for the glam.

    Why do I race chocobo at least 20 times a week? Could it be that I'm trying to get the new mount?

    Even stuff I enjoy doing (raids) I mostly only do for the rewards (dogs/ birds/ mats/ weapons). Doing 99 of one raid burnt me out though so I moved on to other things.

    I really can't think of anything I do in this game that doesn't have a reward I want behind it regardless of how much I enjoy w/e content it is.

    I really enjoy eureka for what it is. And I'm gonna get my shiny shines as well and my pretty stuff as I do it.
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 02-15-2019 at 05:10 PM.

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    It won't get people into Eureka. Only 1% of the population will even end up with this mount, if that. From what I gather the Arsenal is difficult enough that PUGs probably won't be able to clear it without a lot of luck and if you die during the final fight, you don't get credit for the achievement.

    SE once again being unable to make any good midcore content. Its either braindead easy or impossible without a static.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    It won't get people into Eureka. Only 1% of the population will even end up with this mount, if that. From what I gather the Arsenal is difficult enough that PUGs probably won't be able to clear it without a lot of luck and if you die during the final fight, you don't get credit for the achievement.

    SE once again being unable to make any good midcore content. Its either braindead easy or impossible without a static.
    Like expected from a dev team who only see japanese player. They don't understand DF average lvl from EU/NA is so far under japanese DF average lvl. I'm not surprised anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    It won't get people into Eureka. Only 1% of the population will even end up with this mount, if that. From what I gather the Arsenal is difficult enough that PUGs probably won't be able to clear it without a lot of luck and if you die during the final fight, you don't get credit for the achievement.

    SE once again being unable to make any good midcore content. Its either braindead easy or impossible without a static.
    So just like raiding then? If 100% of the players got the reward, it would not be valuable content.

    Mounts like the raid mounts, PotD mounts, even the mentor mount are meant to reward players for skill and dedication. It's a trophy.

    It's like those PSN trophies that say "competed by 1% of players", and there is nothing wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    So just like raiding then? If 100% of the players got the reward, it would not be valuable content.

    Mounts like the raid mounts, PotD mounts, even the mentor mount are meant to reward players for skill and dedication. It's a trophy.

    It's like those PSN trophies that say "competed by 1% of players", and there is nothing wrong with that.
    It's not 100% got the reward but those alive during the whole dg get the achievement. If you die during ozma it's rip for you. Many factor in the dungeon can put you out of it. I mean, a tank who forgot to aggro can OS a healer or a dps by example. And counting you have 55 players with you, mistake can come easily from someone. I don't guess it's about a trophy thing but more like we have a content totaly bad designed and can give 0 chance to ppl to clear it.

    If you put full time, motivation and can improve on savage,ultimate even POTD then you can do it because with your team you can progress on it. It's not the case here with random players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    It won't get people into Eureka. Only 1% of the population will even end up with this mount, if that. From what I gather the Arsenal is difficult enough that PUGs probably won't be able to clear it without a lot of luck and if you die during the final fight, you don't get credit for the achievement.

    SE once again being unable to make any good midcore content. Its either braindead easy or impossible without a static.
    Yup, there will be a massive drop of participation within hydatos, people enduring this for the relic will get out once the il405 aquired and probably never set a foot inside BA other willing to give it a shot and give up after a try or two because of how overly complicated it is while a solid core of player will try hard it for the mount and never go back because it have no other purpose. I don't even think a 1% of the player will get it nor even try to, eureka participation number aren't that great for the moment and don't give any hope for a massive activity inside the arsenal and I'm not even mentioning Shadowbringer incoming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post

    SE once again being unable to make any good midcore content. Its either braindead easy or impossible without a static.
    And here we are talking about 56 players static...how can you get 56 to wipe again and again and again pour weeks when people leave on 1st wipe during a raid ?
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    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

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    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    And here we are talking about 56 players static...how can you get 56 to wipe again and again and again pour weeks when people leave on 1st wipe during a raid ?
    Those 56 player even need the rest of the eureka instance to win a fate that spawn during the progress in BA, if the fate isn't cleared they just can't progress BA anymore, its game over, and he's not easy he require dispel and feint logos action to be completed swiflty as far as I've understand and have a short timer like OVNI not even mentioning the moves of the NM, spanning inside/out AoE and meteor when the HP gettin' low.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 02-15-2019 at 05:30 PM.

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    Honestly, the mechanics in the armory only look to be about extreme trial tier in terms of their complexity.

    There is a lamentably large amount of incompetent players judging from the headcount even the easiest NMs tend to rack up, though...
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