Ozma Mount

[Lambdafish]

The right question to ask is, is it active because people want the relic achievement/glamour, because people want to see Absolute Virtue or because Eureka itself is enjoyable? We'll never know as these 3 pieces of content have been smushed together when there was no need for them to be.

Who knows? The devs seem to think it is popular based on what they have said. But here are some facts that I can say for certain based on dev information and community observation:
- Eureka is not meant for everyone, and it was designed that way. Eureka is for the type of player that likes passive grinds and FFXIesque gameplay, and the mechanics and openness of gameplay reflect that. Not all of it is perfect, and it did get off to a rough start, but some of the complaints about Eureka could be compared to complaining about Ultimate because it is too hard. Which leads me onto:
- Many of the complaints and negative comments are from players who do not actively play Eureka. How many comments do you see that say "I'm glad I didn't get passed anemos, Eureka is trash". Thats not feedback, thats a stigma as Haxxan said.

When we combine these two facts, its clear that the most vocal criticisms are from those that the content wasn't designed for.

So is it good content? It is to some people and not to others, it's as simple as that. I know is that I enjoy it, I know others who enjoy it, it presents some good systems I would love to see elsewhere and it is always active. Ultimately it doesn't matter what anyone's individual opinion is, because the metrics will tell the devs everything they need to know.

[AxlStream]

Who knows? The devs seem to think it is popular based on what they have said. But here are some facts that I can say for certain based on dev information and community observation:
- Eureka is not meant for everyone, and it was designed that way. Eureka is for the type of player that likes passive grinds and FFXIesque gameplay, and the mechanics and openness of gameplay reflect that. Not all of it is perfect, and it did get off to a rough start, but some of the complaints about Eureka could be compared to complaining about Ultimate because it is too hard. Which leads me onto:
- Many of the complaints and negative comments are from players who do not actively play Eureka. How many comments do you see that say "I'm glad I didn't get passed anemos, Eureka is trash", thats not feedback, thats a stigma as Haxxan said.

When we combine these two facts, its clear that the most vocal criticisms are from those that the content wasn't designed for.

So is it good content? It is to some people and not to others, it's as simple as that. I know is that I enjoy it, I know others who enjoy it, it presents some good systems I would love to see elsewhere and it is always active. Ultimately it doesn't matter what anyone's individual opinion is, because the metrics will tell the devs everything they need to know.

Of course I am not knocking on people that enjoy Eureka themselves. I personally enjoyed Anemos before being broken by Pagos and giving up. My issues with those metrics is that Eureka has too many things involved in it to say if the concept is enjoyable. If I want a relic skin for glamour, I'm stuck grinding and I'll be seen in those metrics without being consulted on if I enjoy what I'm doing or not. If I'm grinding for Absolute Virtue, nobody will make the difference if I enjoy the grind or if my grind is a means to an end. Also people that aren't actively playing Eureka also have valid feedback. Why aren't they playing it? What would they like to see changed to make it more appealing to them as well? These are questions SE should ask instead of relying on how many players zone into the damnable thing.

[Bonbori]

I'm okay with this. At least it's directly related to Eureka and makes thematic sense being a reward for doing Eureka content.

Unlike a number of rewards from previous Eurekas (*cough* form and function hairstyle *cough cough* /shiver and /scheme emotes) that didn't belong in there and were only included as an incredibly dirty way to lure in players who otherwise would have no interest in that type of content.

I just want to express how happy I am that for once there is nothing that I desperately want out of Hydatos. That means I'm finally free to treat Eureka as a form of entertainment available at my discretion and at my own pace, as opposed to a chore whose availability and quality is dictated by a variable number of inconsistent, unreliable strangers.

I just hope that if they attempt to do another iteration of Diadem, they will let it stand on its own merits and cater exclusively to the people who enjoy Diadem-type content. If Eureka was really supposed to be a love-letter to FF11, they should have filled it chock-full of iconic FF11 stuff, nothing but unashamed pandering and nostalgia. That would have probably been received much better by a much smaller but more passionate audience. Random Gold Saucer rewards and relics did not need to be held hostage by Eureka. Designing niche content and then incentivising an unnecessarily wide array of players to play it for hundreds of hours has hopefully been proven to have been a terrible decision.

[Burningskull]

They can keep it. After seeing the Hydatos weapons I have no desire to finish my Pyros weapon... still need like 6 unique logoactions for that anyway and I'm not farming any more bunnies.

[Noshpan]

What I want to know is if we'll see the Prophet of the Sky Butthole

[Maero]

That was my own opinion if some of you read that i posted as universal fact you need to learn how to read?
Perhaps i should not have used the example i did i could admit that now but still.
Myself i would rather do EX Primals or Savage content, but carry on if you like Eureka not all of us do so...

[SoleilAlphi]

well. One group of NA raiders just cleared the Arsenal. Yup, the mount does do Ozma things, here's a clip https://clips.twitch.tv/TiredDependablePenguinKappaRoss

[Kuroka]

Meanwhile i cant even level... how nice.

[Doki]

Relics were supposed to be the way for casuals to sloooooowly get the same ilvl as the hardcore raiders...then they added a hardcore raiding step. I guess it will get easier as people grind the 1st boss enough for max elemental gears?

[BillyKaplan]

then they added a hardcore raiding step.

The Arsenal is related to neither Eureka's story nor the relic. Plenty of folks in my linkshell getting their 405s without setting foot in there.