Gender locked race?

[HadesNight]

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That's never a solution. I will repeat myself just because that sort of thing is such a berserk button for me - the text is probably made up from separate checks for gender and race. What the text is likely made up from is [gender indicator] [race indicator]. In which case there is only one place in the code that would have to change as far as texts go and that's the pool of race names the character can belong to.
For gender locked races - which I hope we won't really get - the [gender indicator] check will still happen but will only ever show the one result since the other isn't available to player characters.

Honestly, that's fine. That is essentially the jist of what we're both trying to say.

Regardless of the text error in game showing all the races, there is nothing to indicate that we've definitely getting male Viera (on the flip side, nothing to disprove we won't). Being needlessly nitpicky didn't add anything new to this conversation lol. Regardless of how they are customizing their text to call out specifics, I wonder if Yoshi is gonna make them stop that practice going forward and have them adopt the "Hello Adventurer" approach lol.

[ErryK]

It has to do with the lore. Viera males are very rare. It would be silly to see them everywhere.

I'd love it if we kept it that way but "MuH FeMme TwInK bUnNiEs!!".

[Yasminou]

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That's never a solution. I will repeat myself just because that sort of thing is such a berserk button for me - the text is probably made up from separate checks for gender and race. What the text is likely made up from is [gender indicator] [race indicator]. In which case there is only one place in the code that would have to change as far as texts go and that's the pool of race names the character can belong to.
For gender locked races - which I hope we won't really get - the [gender indicator] check will still happen but will only ever show the one result since the other isn't available to player characters.

It's the other way around, there is a switch statement on the race and then a if-else statement on the gender for each case (in Rowena's speech, there is no if-else statement for the Au ra since it does not change the outcome), see the reddit thread. That is why copy-pasting from the other race is most likely what happened.

[Corue]

I'd love it if we kept it that way but "MuH FeMme TwInK bUnNiEs!!".

This exact post nas suddenly made me lose all interest in discussion since I've realised everyone's getting incredibly spiteful and petty over what amounts to a height change and some different animations.
I'm waiting until Fanfest before I say anything else.

[xbahax92]

I'd love it if we kept it that way but "MuH FeMme TwInK bUnNiEs!!".

Arent we bit too homophobic?

Beside I can tell you, players will ask as much for their lion female race. Its not always one-sided.

[Metsonm]

Imagine being this mad over people wanting balanced character customisation options.

[Iscah]

Miquote are explicitly stated to be descended from Mithra in FFXIV. Bunny ears on them contradicts this lore. There's no need to merge them with Viera when they have such drastically different background stories surrounding them.

Explicitly stated where? From memory, it was suggested in the text for the Mithra minion, but it's never been canon that FFXI exists in the FFXIV universe.

From the lorebook there are two possible versions of man's origin: direct creation by the gods, or possibly evolution.

In an evolution scenario, even with Mithra as a direct ancestor of Miqo'te, there's no reason why there couldn't be a common Viera-Miqo'te ancestor before that.

Au Ra males = Elezen.

I have alts of both those races, and they definitely don't have the same body shape. Costumes look very different on them.

A lot of it is due to the Au Ra chest shape, which isn't just wide but also seems to be quite deep front-to-back, and they seem to have slightly hunched shoulders? Or maybe that's just my perception due to Elezen proportions being my other main reference for male gear. But there are definitely some things that sit awkwardly on them - usually with wide collars.

For limb proportions, I don't have good reference screenshots showing their body rather than clothes, but from what little I have it's possible that there's not a huge amount of actual size difference (I can't really compare) but that the "unadjustable muscle slider setting" is up the high end for Au Ra and lower for Elezen, so the actual difference in their build is more than just the dimensions.

Hey guys, what about the possibility that they add female Viera and male Hrothgar first, with plans to add their opposite sex counterparts later depending on player requests? Say, if they get a high demand right away, they'll move development to release them within 5.x, else, in 6.0 instead. Edited: this would stay true that these will be their last races to add in the game. Adding the opposite sex doesn't count as adding a new race.

If that happens... as I've mentioned previously, I think there might be a programming limit of eight races (with hypothetical Hrothgar/Viera counting as one), so if we got that offer it might come hand-in-hand with "we can give you one more race or we can give you the other Viera/Hrothgar. Which would you like?"

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That's never a solution. I will repeat myself just because that sort of thing is such a berserk button for me - the text is probably made up from separate checks for gender and race. What the text is likely made up from is [gender indicator] [race indicator]. In which case there is only one place in the code that would have to change as far as texts go and that's the pool of race names the character can belong to.
For gender locked races - which I hope we won't really get - the [gender indicator] check will still happen but will only ever show the one result since the other isn't available to player characters.

In English, you would have the [gender] [race] format but is it possible that "L'Ao Ra" messes with the ability to do that in French, thus requiring them to program in all those separate phrases instead?

[Shippuu]

Imagine being this mad over people wanting balanced character customisation options.

Balanced is pretty subjective though. Balanced by what metric? We've seen how diverse in appearance people have desires for regarding just male viera, some want buff masculine viera, some want petite effeminate viera, some want tiny cute viera.

There's plenty of metrics that would still be balanced if two genderlocked races were introduced as well.

[Gwenorai]

Part of me knows that this may indeed be evidence that could be a gender lock; as Shippuu said in the past it is likely due to resource times and etc. The optimist in me believes they're going out with a bang regarding the last races and are introducing two at one time. They said Viera was the last race; though by looking at the glitch - Viera is last. Meaning this new race came first? Which is confusing seeing as Blufever didn't state that there was another race until much later.

Anyway; all I know is this. If they're genderlocked people will complain, that's a given. Will there be backlash, yes? Enough to have them revert the gender lock? Who knows. Or maybe, just maybe they're not gender locked; due to the whole stormblood expansion not having a new race that it might have been released with this one. Perhaps whatever they had just wasn't ready for release during that time and thus they pushed back the release?

It would honestly be huge for them and earn them so many dang brownie points if this was true.

Or the text is old, very old to the point that whatever this new race was, it was scrapped.

[Riardon]

We don't need yet another cat race for Hydealyn's name.
It will be very silly if they introduce one.
Viera should have male and female period.
If they had time and resources to make 2 gender locked races then it means they could develop the male Vieras.
Looks like people want the Viera race and want both genders not only one.
Nobody asked for 2nd race and especially another cat one.