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  1. #1
    Player
    Kupocoubo's Avatar
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    Artemios Ambrosios
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    Moogle
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    The game called me the "dignified representative" of the Viera race, I am shook.

    (2)

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    Metsonm's Avatar
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    Met Rhukon
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    More creative freedom is what they are afforded by going with a new race over Viera. Viera have a history from past games, and choosing to include them as a race comes with issues. You either toss their lore and appearance out the window, which will piss off fans, or you're restricted by the pre established elements. The more freedoms you take with the design/implementation the less like their original incarnations they become.

    So sure, they could make male viera look like anything, but to say everyone would be happy with how they turned out is just not true. You already saw plenty of people complaining about the female viera and they're hardly different from 12's.

    With a new race, they aren't bound by these potential restrictions, and actually get to make something new. If I was a director of a big final fantasy game I'd want to put brand new stuff into the IP to make my mark too.
    You're not going to get 100% approval on anything anyway, that's not really an excuse to go with one over the other.
    (9)

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    Shippuu Nammuu
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metsonm View Post
    You're not going to get 100% approval on anything anyway, that's not really an excuse to go with one over the other.
    It's an excuse if Yoshida makes it one. You don't have to like it or accept, but he doesn't have to justify it to everyone. He's made plenty of non-valid excuses for a lot of things regarding the game. In the end he's still the director and it ultimately comes down to his decision.
    (6)

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    Metsonm's Avatar
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    Met Rhukon
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    It's an excuse if Yoshida makes it one. You don't have to like it or accept, but he doesn't have to justify it to everyone. He's made plenty of non-valid excuses for a lot of things regarding the game. In the end he's still the director and it ultimately comes down to his decision.
    Exactly.

    Doesn't mean his decisions make sense or are good, though.
    (4)

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    redcurrant18's Avatar
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    Wonder Noblesse
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    SOME variation of male Viera is better than no male Viera. There will never be a way to please everyone but doing nothing and throwing a curveball will just piss off more people. Luckily so far evidence points to them being playable along with both genders of Hrothgar, but if this isn’t the case best believe I’m gonna be pissed.
    (8)

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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I remember some speculation about there being Ronso males as the counter to viera females, but I sincerely hope that isnt the case. That would be very disappointing to me. I want Viera males (even if theyre musclemen) and if there are Ronso, female ones (no idea what they look like but why not.)

    Guess we'll have to wait and see...
    (8)

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    Aeliott's Avatar
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    Aeliott Cadenza
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    Phoenix
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    That and the fact that a second gender of a race should not be news. If they have so little to announce that they had to wait to show the male version then why are we 1) having 3 fanfests and 2) a new expansion?
    Do consider that never in any other FF game have we had a male Viera before. Considering they're technically from outside of XIV's original creations, this could be news for FF fans outside of XIV too. Perhaps they don't want the males to overshadow the females which we're kind of already really used to - as much as people begged for them.

    Nothing concrete of course, but I think we just have to chill until Tokyo fest.
    (6)

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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeliott View Post

    Nothing concrete of course, but I think we just have to chill until Tokyo fest.
    Hahahahaha.
    ahahaha.a
    aha.haaah.a

    What's that?
    Never heard of it.
    (8)

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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Hahahahaha.
    ahahaha.a
    aha.haaah.a

    What's that?
    Never heard of it.
    Play this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lfiTebewnc 92 times and we'll all know what the race is going to be .

    Plz no sue for mental damages :3
    (2)

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    Wonder Noblesse
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    Brynhildr
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    It's an excuse if Yoshida makes it one. You don't have to like it or accept, but he doesn't have to justify it to everyone. He's made plenty of non-valid excuses for a lot of things regarding the game. In the end he's still the director and it ultimately comes down to his decision.
    I won’t give him money if he doesn’t make the decisions that I agree with. All his power comes from us who play this game, not the other way around. I’ve taken hiatus from this game before and if he for some reason screws up male Viera then he can kiss my sub money goodbye for a few months until he adds them. I do not pay for incomplete games or games which break their promises.
    (9)

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