Please no more Eureka!

[Laphael]

Anyone could tell that was an exaggerated example, but still somewhat relative in regards to Eureka about the idea that most people are over the senseless grinds in MMO games as a measure of "fun" and engaging content, even worse when things like the relic are tied to it that some players may find important to them.

Except for you apparently, but I should have seen that one coming.

If you are not up for some grind you should probably rather play a single player game or skip the grind part of MMOs.
MMOs need grind to stay alive and keep the Players which spend a few hours a day playing.
Nobody will like every kind of content an MMO offers, i don´t like pvp for example and wont do any ultimates, but since there are ppl who want it, im totally ok with the devs putting time and ressources into it.

[Sigma-Astra]

If you are not up for some grind you should probably rather play a single player game or skip the grind part of MMOs.
MMOs need grind to stay alive and keep the Players which spend a few hours a day playing.
Nobody will like every kind of content an MMO offers, i don´t like pvp for example and wont do any ultimates, but since there are ppl who want it, im totally ok with the devs putting time and ressources into it.

MMO's don't need grinds to stay alive. If that were the case then we'd all still be playing Everquest. I only spend a few hours a day playing because I work 7 days a week. What's your point? By your logic, Eureka was made specifically for people like myself (it's not).

Also:

If you are not up for some grind you should probably rather play a single player game or skip the grind part of MMOs.

This is a terrible rebuttal towards anything. Even single player games can have grinds in them and the idea of a person not liking what Eureka has turned into doesn't mean that they need to start playing single player games. Criticism isn't a bad thing, assuming everything that the devs make is perfect is.

[Laphael]

MMO's don't need grinds to stay alive.

I played quite a few mmos and all of them had grind content. Pls tell me one that doesn´t and is still alive.
Or, maybe our definition of grind is different.

[Sigma-Astra]

I played quite a few mmos and all of them had grind content. Pls tell me one that doesn´t and is still alive.
Or, maybe our definition of grind is different.

Don't purposely be obtuse to solely fit your narrative. Grinding is not the only thing that keeps MMO's alive and you know it. Again, if grinding was the only thing people needed to stay then there wouldn't be a need for other MMO's with different combat styles, content, settings, etc.

You're willfully being obtuse about this for no reason really.

[Nariel]

I played quite a few mmos and all of them had grind content. Pls tell me one that doesn´t and is still alive.
Or, maybe our definition of grind is different.

You act like grind is grind its alway the same in every game, everywhere, like grind can't be fun or rewarding it has to be boring, plain and meaningless and people just can't deal with it and should play solo game because solo game don't have grind, grind is a MMO thing so obviously if you don't like grind in one MMO you just don't like MMO.

[Laphael]

You act like grind is grind its alway the same in every game, everywhere, like grind can't be fun or rewarding it has to be boring, plain and meaningless and people just can't deal with it and should play solo game because solo game don't have grind, grind is a MMO thing so obviously if you don't like grind in one MMO you just don't like MMO.

FUN is subjectiv! I like the Eureka grind. You don´t, thats ok.
But ff14 has already many different ginds, grind ex primals for dogs, grind pvp for wolf marks, grind savage for gear, grind eureka for weapons, grind dungeons for exp, grind hunt mobs for centuios, grind whatever for achievements and so on.

This whole thread is about ppl that don´t like a special grind (Eureka) and ask the devs to never do it again, even though other ppl like it.

[Nariel]

FUN is subjectiv! I like the Eureka grind. You don´t, thats ok.
But ff14 has already many different ginds, grind ex primals for dogs, grind pvp for wolf marks, grind savage for gear, grind eureka for weapons, grind dungeons for exp, grind hunt mobs for centuios, grind whatever for achievements and so on.

This whole thread is about ppl that don´t like a special grind (Eureka) and ask the devs to never do it again, even though other ppl like it.

People mostly complaign about how many ressources this niche content take, how much of the spotlight devs give it and how utterly digusted they are to see the relic and many other cool things (émote/haircut) are stuffed in it to give the illusion its already rotten corpse is alive and well.

If not for those problem, noboby would have any complaign to post anywhere about it for so long, just like so many people don't bother to care about LoV besides its many flaws and quality.

[Laphael]

People mostly complaign avour how many ressources this niche content, how much of the spotlight devs give it and how utterly digusted they are to see the relic and many other cool things (émote/haircut) are stuffed in it to give the illusion its already rotten corpse is alive and well.

Tbf. People don´t now how much ressources this content uses in relation to other content.
If someone has a source for that im happy to look into it.