It's been nearly a month: How are limited jobs?

[Vanitas]

I enjoyed blu through shout chat of all the people throughly enjoying the process of learning self destruct.

[KDSilver]

Since the TRUST system will be implemented and since they want BLU to be a solo job, it should have its level cap raised to lvl 80 like every other class.
This way, people only interested in the MSQ and the solo experience can go on dungeon with NPC.

Just saying. I know it won't.
That's what makes this class so weird. It fails at being a full solo designed job.
They seriously need to rework that if they want a full solo experience for player enjoying it.

[Elkanah]

Since the TRUST system will be implemented and since they want BLU to be a solo job, it should have its level cap raised to lvl 80 like every other class.
This way, people only interested in the MSQ and the solo experience can go on dungeon with NPC.

Just saying. I know it won't.
That's what makes this class so weird. It fails at being a full solo designed job.
They seriously need to rework that if they want a full solo experience for player enjoying it.

I think the only issue with the TRUST system is, if I recall, mentioned that it'll only be the expansion and upwards where the trust system will be implemented. So unless they decide to go back on their word in Japan, the trust system won't really matter to most of us outside of a small community who may consider doing the newer dungeons solo with npc's, compared to the rest of us with our fc/linkshells or df anyways. I'd love to be able to level as far back as level 1 (even just to mess around with on a new character). But fat chance of that happening. So.

[Levy9]

I'd rather not get anymore limited jobs, but the only limited job that would be worthwhile long term is one that was limited to PvP and solo content. As of now, the level cap wouldn't have to go beyond 30. The job would still have a repeatable, multiplayer, endgame activity that you can queue for it on, despite being limited.

It wouldn't be reliant upon the devs making exclusive content for it as is the case with Blue Mage. Again, I'd prefer that they just made normal jobs, but if they were going to patch in another limited job, that would be the most sensible design, imo.

[Awful]

Are you still playing BLU

No once I got to Primal EX spells I just lost interest

Just for the weekly masked carnival challenges?

No I did them once and was really underwhelmed that the final boss was that easy/boring

Did you play it more than if it was a full job?

Yes I would.

Did you enjoy your time playing BLU

Until I hit max level yeah then the fun is joyless.

Did you enjoy the content limited job offer, not necessarily BLU itself (overworld collection/special arenas with special conditions)?

Not really, once I got 1000 needles every other spell lost its meaning it was Acorn Bomb > 1000 Needles > Bad Breath > 1000 Needles, rest of the spells are just novelty and very uninteresting

Would you rather adjustments for BLU to be more enjoyable as a limited job, or turned into a full one?

I don't see why it can't honestly nothing screams that it's OP or that it can't be in a traditional role I just feel like it was a budget decision by the dev team.

Are you looking forward to more limited jobs?

No I dread the next limited job this just shows that FFXIV is becoming more of a theme park MMO you ride them until you get sick of them and BLU was such a short ride that it ruined limited jobs for me. I'd rather have fully fleshed out classes that can do all content whether it be MSQ, PVP, Raids, it just feels wrong in an MMO to have this half baked idea of Atma Farming 4.0 for spells.

I enjoyed BLU until lvl 30ish when I got 1000 needles and found out that this was a sign of things to come, then when I had to AV for Glower I was like this isn't good at all. Then I went into the Carnivale and laughed that I could self destruct and final sting things with 0 strategy it was sad. So if this is what limited jobs are going to be a gimmick with no redeeming qualities I don't want it sorry.

[TarynH]

-Are you still playing BLU? No, not even a little bit.

-Just for the weekly masked carnival challenges? Gave up on this, because it's not worth anything atm. There's not much reward in it, and doing solo content just to do more solo content does not really appeal to me.

-Did you play it more than if it was a full job? I would play it more if it was a full job. Right now it's too weak to do anything imo.

-Did you enjoy your time playing BLU? I really did. It's a fun job, but very incomplete. Needs to be fleshed out with rotations, and its own skill set.

-Did you enjoy the content limited job offer, not necessarily BLU itself (overworld collection/special arenas with special conditions)? I enjoyed being able to solo level with it, but didn't care for Masked Carnivale. I also didn't like that I couldn't solo certain things to learn spells. It's either a solo job, or it's not. If it's not, then it needs some utility added to be decent in party content.

-Would you rather adjustments for BLU to be more enjoyable as a limited job, or turned into a full one? Full one. Limited job is a stupid concept, and I've seen absolutely no reason why it can't work in party content now (other than consistent damage and rotations/skills).

-Are you looking forward to more limited jobs? Absolutely not. I would like them to figure out how to make all future jobs and BLU to fit into party content. The game is way more fun being able to do content in the normal fashion.

[SenorPatty]

-Are you still playing BLU
After obtaining all overworld abilities and spending five tries obtaining Glower from AV, I was done.

-Just for the weekly masked carnival challenges?
Cleared the first stage, tried another, then stopped.

-Did you play it more than if it was a full job?
Nope

-Did you enjoy your time playing BLU

From levels 1-30, it was enjoyable. Especially seeing everyone out and about in the lowbie zones, talking to one another about where to obtain spells and leveling at a good pace (something Eureka failed to do), yeah it was fun. From then onwards, it was just a slow descent into grind, which eventually turned into boredom.

-Did you enjoy the content limited job offer, not necessarily BLU itself (overworld collection/special arenas with special conditions)?
For awhile, yes.

-Would you rather adjustments for BLU to be more enjoyable as a limited job, or turned into a full one?

My recommendations:

-Have hard modes trials and dgns teach the skills with a 100% rate. The caveat? You can only complete it with other BLUs in the party.

-There are actually very few skills the BLU has that are "op". The rest are just hotkey fodder. If SE want's to convince the playerbase BLU can't participate in regular DF because of OP skills, it actually needs to give them in spades.

-At this point, the level cap seems quaint since BLU is a limited job just from the DF restriction. Remove it.


-Are you looking forward to more limited jobs?

I had a full length discussion about the possibility of BST (beastmaster) being limited with a RL friend. He thinks SE should just go full pokemon and it took a really long while...but I finally agreed with him. Catching/Controlling all sorts of monsters, catching rare versions of said monsters, catching ultra rare/hunt version of monsters, using them to battle against either cpu or player, having tournaments, beastmaster could legit a monster of a side activity in FF14. Sadly, I don't really trust SE to execute this well so I'd rather they'd stay on the safe side and just develop regular jobs for the game.

[BillyKaplan]

I had a full length discussion about the possibility of BST (beastmaster) being limited with a RL friend. He thinks SE should just go full pokemon and it took a really long while...but I finally agreed with him. Catching/Controlling all sorts of monsters, catching rare versions of said monsters, catching ultra rare/hunt version of monsters, using them to battle against either cpu or player, having tournaments, beastmaster could legit a monster of a side activity in FF14. Sadly, I don't really trust SE to execute this well so I'd rather they'd stay on the safe side and just develop regular jobs for the game.

Ok but what about any of that is mutually exclusive with BST also being a full-fledged job? BRDs have Perform and they still operate the same in battle as before. The biggest issue here will have SE properly invest in a system that lets you use balanced, restricted actions for DF, while anything else BST would have to offer wouldn't be used in current-tier content, if used outside of its version of the Masked Carnival at all.

[MrKimper]

Too busy salivating over gunbreaker.

[GenericMagus]

Too busy salivating over gunbreaker.

Sorry, Gunbreaker has now been deemed to be a Limited tank.

We wanted to stay true to how Squall uses his gunblade, and using the trigger to increase the damage and cause a guaranted critical hit. We struggled hard balacing this with the other tanks as it made Gunbreaker too overpowered being able to crit every time.

But it simply does too much damage, we couldn't make it an actual tank because Squall never had any Tank qualities, and it was just a bulky DPS so we can't have that as GUN wouldn't be a tank, but we can't release it as a DPS as we released SAM in SB.

Instead, we set up solo content just for GUN to participate in, as you get to use the full extent of GUN with different kinds of ammo to use and the Draw Magic mechanic in order to protect its identity.

Please look forward to it.