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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Pls more Eureka.

    I am all for diversification of methods which will allow me to get equipment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    The difference is in the amount of effort that gets put into the content. Savage raiding, from a model and area standpoint, doesn't take nearly as many resources as Eureka. And while I'm sure it takes a lot of time to design the fight mechanics, the majority of that effort gets used in the Normal version of the fights, which virtually all players can experience and enjoy.

    When our sub money is being used to fund incredibly large amounts of time and effort towards content we don't like, we have the right to complain about it. The creation of Savage raids doesn't remove a noticeable amount of resources from other parts of the game. Eureka absolutely does.
    You should not worry more about the SE finances than they are, this game is growing and the income is growing as well. They would not decide to create separate pieces of content if they would be short on money and funds.
    If they want to work more, you should let them, stop finding excuses for devs laziness.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 02-05-2019 at 05:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    You should not worry more about the SE finances than they are, this game is growing and the income is growing as well. They would not decide to create separate pieces of content if they would be short on money and funds.
    If they want to work more, you should let them, stop finding excuses for devs laziness.
    They have literally said they have to cut some content in order to make others. The most obvious example of which is how we now get 1.5 dungeons per patch, where we used to get 3. They are not working more, they're simply reallocating.
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    Not impressed to say the least. If they want to make Diadem 5.x then cut the relic weapon/gear out of it and stop gating everything under the sun behind it - maybe shrink it down so it doesn't require as many players to get things done. That way the small number people who love Eureka can go play in their happy little garden of Eden and leave the rest of us the hell alone. But I'm mostly disappointed that they're still using the same formula from 4 years ago instead of expanding the horizon.

    If they want to improve it then do what they did with raids and make every previous "Eureka" tier skippable when a new one is introduced.
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    Last edited by Bobkitty; 02-12-2019 at 03:00 PM.

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    i actually like Eureka. Yeah there are some places they can work on making it better, but for the most part i very much welcome the change in pace from the normal dungeon grind. i think if they can tweak certain things about it, it will be a lot more fun.
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    I've seen argument batted around a bit in this thread and it has me a bit confused, some people are claiming that Eureka is baiting people to go into it by offering glams, minions, mounts and hair.

    The relic is nice, but imo I'd still be doing eureka even without it. For the other rewards though, how is it any different than rewards you can get from pvp, potd, or raiding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    I've seen argument batted around a bit in this thread and it has me a bit confused, some people are claiming that Eureka is baiting people to go into it by offering glams, minions, mounts and hair.

    The relic is nice, but imo I'd still be doing eureka even without it. For the other rewards though, how is it any different than rewards you can get from pvp, potd, or raiding?
    They don't belong there, otherwise they wouldn't put them inside lootboxes to bribe people to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    They don't belong there, otherwise they wouldn't put them inside lootboxes to bribe people to do it.
    So eureka should have zero content rewards, and adding anything is a bribe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    So eureka should have zero content rewards, and adding anything is a bribe?
    Remove relic and hairstyles from Eureka then we talk about active players doing it for "fun".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    Remove relic and hairstyles from Eureka then we talk about active players doing it for "fun".
    Sure remove stuff from normal raids and savage and ultimate while we're at it

    They are incentives just look at HoH as something that had lower incentives and died faster because of it Eureka isn't for everyone devs didn't even intend for it to be their mistake was tying the relic solely in Eureka if there was a separate weapon for Eureka but the relic had its old formula which btw was asked on many occasions to have unique stuff to do for it kinda got that wish just not how people were asking for it hey ho can't change that now
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leanna View Post
    Remove relic and hairstyles from Eureka then we talk about active players doing it for "fun".
    I'd do it for fun. At least it's a lot more interactive than dungeons where mostly the form of communication that you get is "o/" at the beginning and "tyfp" at the end and a mindless bashing of weak mobs in a linear path along the way.
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