Please no more Eureka!

[Nashred]

You didn't lose content, you lost a reward. Past relics were basically Tome Farming, and tome farming is still in the game, and already provides the overall best casual weapon. However, people that are bored of tome farming after several years of it actually gained a "new" content.

Also, saying that Eureka only survived because people wanted the rewards there is a nonsense. Every content only survives because people want something there. The only exception is the extremely small part of the playerbase that actually runs Savage and Ultimate for the competitive aspect even after they have all the items they need.

Frankly, I felt the dungeons were really bland, especially considering they could have done something much more interesting lorewise with The Burn and Ghimlyt Dark. As for instance battes, we have more of them in SB than what we had in HW, so it's not like they sacrificed it for Eureka.

Agreed.

I am so sick of cookie cutter dungeons.

trash/boss/trash/bass/trash/boss.

I wont say get rid of dungeons because I do not like it.

I played allot of Heavensward and did mainly savage Alexander and did the dungeons once to finish them.

Myself and many others I play with enjoy Eureka, it's our favorite content in the game. I'm personally very happy they will be adding another version of it in ShB.

I just don't get all of this vehement aggression towards it. I don't like Savage Raiding or PvP, yet I don't bemoan SE or Players that enjoy it, I'm happy people are able to have something in this game they enjoy and am happy for them when they succeed at it. The rewards from both are good, but I don't feel that I'm owed any of it, the people that put in the effort for it did hard work and deserve it just as myself and others who enjoy eureka got joy out of getting our rewards from it.

Please stop asking for content to be removed that you personally don't like, we all have aspects of this game we enjoy and none of us want that feeling taken away.

I agree I like it but have not had the time for it lately.
What I do not get is why if someone does not like it they can not let others like it.
Seriously for those that have the time and want the grind why cant they have something to do.
This game offers a ton of casual content.
If someone does not like it, do not do it then! Who says you have to do all the content.
Why cant the game have stuff for all players.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

I love Eureka and I am very much looking forward to more of it! There are some things in this game that I do not do but I don't need or want them to be removed from the game, purely because I don't do them. Others DO enjoy things that I don't.

[St0rmchild]

Can't speak for this relic, but in previous expansions they eventually became your BiS. So for people who liked to aim for that, or serious raiders, it was pretty much required, even if it required slogging through grinds and content that frankly were way below your skill level.

The problem with the Eurekerite Relic is it'll be BiS about 4 weeks before 5.0 given it's been a tier behind ever since it was introduced a patch too late.

By which time nobody will give a crap about its stats, only that it has a pretty particle efect.

[Ilan]

Can't speak for this relic, but in previous expansions they eventually became your BiS. So for people who liked to aim for that, or serious raiders, it was pretty much required, even if it required slogging through grinds and content that frankly were way below your skill level.

Reminds me of Azerite power in WoW right now, tbh. Best way to get them is through world quests (basically dailies) and these really boring faceroll instances called island expeditions. Even if you're a Mythic raider pushing prog on Jaina you still have to mass-AOE your way through braindead stuff to unlock your class's full potential. It's always been a frustrating conundrum for me, and part of the reason I'm glad I don't raid seriously in either game anymore.

This relic can be the best weapon if you are the luckiest sob because the stats are not getting chosen by you, they are generated randomly which makes this weapon absolutly horrible as a relic.

[Alucard135]

This relic can be the best weapon if you are the luckiest sob because the stats are not getting chosen by you, they are generated randomly which makes this weapon absolutly horrible as a relic.

When you say best weapon, are you referring to having 1000 substats? The question in that case then is why do you want that? What's the purpose outside of raiding? If you're referring to having substats equivalent to the raid and tome weapon, then it's not hard at all. I already got my RDM weapon with substats that are higher than my O12s weapon. When they added the random substats, it's because it gives you a chance of having something that can be really OP if you're lucky. But then again, if you're not raiding or doing any hardcore content, why are you fixated on getting the best stats if you already have alternatives that you can just glamour the relic over that can do the job? Like the ilvl 400 tome weapon that I used to clear O12s.

[Ilan]

When you say best weapon, are you referring to having 1000 substats? The question in that case then is why do you want that? What's the purpose outside of raiding? If you're referring to having substats equivalent to the raid and tome weapon, then it's not hard at all. I already got my RDM weapon with substats that are higher than my O12s weapon. When they added the random substats, it's because it gives you a chance of having something that can be really OP if you're lucky. But then again, if you're not raiding or doing any hardcore content, why are you fixated on getting the best stats if you already have alternatives that you can just glamour the relic over that can do the job? Like the ilvl 400 tome weapon that I used to clear O12s.

My friend i was strictly answering to the post i've quoted so don't come with "For what?" or "Why?" because this weapon will only be the best if you get lucky when you are rolling the stats and get the best possible stats and not some random stuff that a lot of people got and no i'm not even talking about the 1000 substats. I merely stated that fact nothing more and nothing less.

[KageTokage]

If they do decide to continue with this form of content, I sincerely hope they do something to encourage people to be active instead of leeching.

[Airget]

If they do decide to continue with this form of content, I sincerely hope they do something to encourage people to be active instead of leeching.

Ya, they need to add more active content into Eureka, the base design was just a glorified hub for FATE spamming.

[Bacent]

I was a bit late in working on some later parts of the relic for 4.X (In which I haven't even done much in the more current one), but it's really disheartening when people actively say 'why are you working so hard lol' when trying to help pre-farm stuff, or even the parties that disband after 10 or so minutes when trying to gather light. With what I have done in the most recent one, a lot of people aren't willing to help lower level players travel by mount if it's not too far, and I've had waves of people just run right past me while I'm laying there dead and actively shouting in the chat. I've even been griefed when trying to level up as a healer there, and I'm actively healing people doing the pre-farming, with people shouting I'm mooching because I'm not fighting.

I like the older relics because (Multiple in both 2.X and 3.X done for me) you could do many of the steps in them alone. In Eureka you really can't do anything solo efficiently....if at all. Sure some things have gotten 'better' as they somewhat listened to feedback, but I really do not want something this heavy in co-op content. There were originally two ways to get weapons for your class, relic and raid. Relic for the more casual people, something you could work a little bit on each day or when you felt it, and raid weapons for the more hardcore players, but it wasn't as bad as eureka.... and you never had to worry about de-leveling if people felt like being jackasses and didn't raise you if you died.

[Nedkel]

Pls more Eureka.

I am all for diversification of methods which will allow me to get equipment.

The difference is in the amount of effort that gets put into the content. Savage raiding, from a model and area standpoint, doesn't take nearly as many resources as Eureka. And while I'm sure it takes a lot of time to design the fight mechanics, the majority of that effort gets used in the Normal version of the fights, which virtually all players can experience and enjoy.

When our sub money is being used to fund incredibly large amounts of time and effort towards content we don't like, we have the right to complain about it. The creation of Savage raids doesn't remove a noticeable amount of resources from other parts of the game. Eureka absolutely does.

You should not worry more about the SE finances than they are, this game is growing and the income is growing as well. They would not decide to create separate pieces of content if they would be short on money and funds.
If they want to work more, you should let them, stop finding excuses for devs laziness.