Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
(think getting my pyros weapon cost me about 5 mil).
You're probably doing something wrong if it cost you that much, while I got it for free in just 5 days. In fact, I made over 18 mil from the stuff I got there in those 5 days. But then again, it's like ARR and HW relics never cost any gil at all right? Not everyone has DoL/DoH classes all leveled up. So they will either grind for that (much worse than grinding for bunny fates) or buy the needed items from the MB.

As for loot boxes, what do you need from them to upgrade your weapon? only logograms and specifically Fundamental and offensive ones (with the former being really easy to obtain) which you might never need if you only want the weapon to get 30 logos actions. But if you want all 50 that's still a less grind than Atmas, since 1- you don't need that much offensive logograms 2- They can be traded so people can still get them without doing the bunny fates either by selling or just free (even if you decided to buy them off, it's never a wise choice to buy them on release date, since they cost millions while now they cost less than 200K on my server).

As for the randomized stats part, the majority of casual players only want it for the looks. If someone cares for the stats that much, there's the tome and raid weapons for that. But, I applaud Yoshi P for the idea of a randomized stat weapon tbh. Because they tied it to the possibility of getting a really OP weapon and if you really want that weapon, then locking it behind RNG will not render the raid weapon useless. If it was just a mindless grind, not a lot would bother getting O12s weapons. And the light grind for this part is literally way way more easier than previous relics. With a reflect party you can fill your kettle in less than 10min. And since these stats carry on to Hydatos, it's gonna be very easy to surpass the raid weapon (which at this point of the patch it won't affect the raid content). You don't have to get 1000 substats to surpass the raid weapon. You just need 605+ which again is not needed if you're just playing casually and not a hardcore raider.

So again, the grind/RNG part in Eureka is much less than previous relics in order to get such relics. And the fact that I have enough to make more than 7 relics if I had more classes at 70, just tells me how much less of a grind it is compared to ARR and HW ones that I only did one for each and couldn't bare going through the same thing again even after the nerf.