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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Physical damage is relevant.

    Not for Off-Guard, because Off-Guard just buffs all damage you deal (Except the fixed damage of 1000 Needles).

    Whether something is magical damage or not is relevant when it comes to Peculiar Light. Since Peculiar Light provides a magical vulnerability debuff, it does not have any effect on physical damage, such as that from Drill Cannon.
    My apologies. Off-guard wasn't the the proper example. The point I meant to make was that we have conflicting information about Drill Cannon's damage type, and by extension, conflicting information about Mountain Buster. From what I understand, when an action states that it "deals unaspected damage with a potency of X", under normal circumstances, that means it deals magic damage. Actions that deal physical damage ordinarily state that it "delivers an attack with a potency of X" which isn't the case with Drill Cannon. Basically, the "unaspected" property, which is included in Drill Cannon's action description, suggests that the attack is magical in nature.

    If we take all information that we're given, from both the action description and the spell book description, Drill Cannon should be considered both magical and physical while dealing piercing damage. I'm hesitant to consider all of that to be 100% accurate under all circumstances, but it's possible. I'm more inclined to trust the action description, hence my suspicion that the physical aspect (that's only mentioned in the spell book) only applied while inside the Masked Carnival, but testing will have to be conducted to determine its properties.

    After some limited testing, it would seem that it's the action description that's inaccurate, but verification from anyone able to conduct more extensive testing would be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    My apologies. Off-guard wasn't the the proper example. The point I meant to make was that we have conflicting information about Drill Cannon's damage type, and by extension, conflicting information about Mountain Buster. From what I understand, when an action states that it "deals unaspected damage with a potency of X", under normal circumstances, that means it deals magic damage. Actions that deal physical damage ordinarily state that it "delivers an attack with a potency of X" which isn't the case with Drill Cannon. Basically, the "unaspected" property, which is included in Drill Cannon's action description, suggests that the attack is magical in nature.

    If we take all information that we're given, from both the action description and the spell book description, Drill Cannon should be considered both magical and physical while dealing piercing damage. I'm hesitant to consider all of that to be 100% accurate under all circumstances, but it's possible. I'm more inclined to trust the action description, hence my suspicion that the physical aspect (that's only mentioned in the spell book) only applied while inside the Masked Carnival, but testing will have to be conducted to determine its properties.

    After some limited testing, it would seem that it's the action description that's inaccurate, but verification from anyone able to conduct more extensive testing would be appreciated.
    Yeah, while I cannot confirm if it actually deals Piercing damage (Thus would be bolstered by DRG's debuff), it at the very least, isn't considered Magical, because it does not benefit from Peculiar Light.

    To ascertain whether it truly is dealing Physical damage though, would require something like a RDM to apply Embolden (Which increases party members physical damage) and see if its damage is affected. Then for checking Piercing, there would need to be a DRG using Disembowel.

    But yeah, there is currently some issues with the tooltip and description.

    Since, we have plenty of "Unaspected" damage spells (Notably, AST uses entirely unaspected damage), we do not have a precedent for "Physical" damage spells, which I assume is where this tooltip discrepancy comes in. Since, "Deliver an attack", the usual wording for physical skills, would still be inaccurate, as it's not an attack, it's a spell.

    As for this further testing of Phys/Piercing damage, I'm afraid I lack the capacity... I don't have anyone I can call on to help apply the necessary buff/debuff to test with.
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