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  1. #1
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    Transient_Shadow's Avatar
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    Flutter Butter
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    Sch wishlist for 5.0

    These are the things I hope will be part of 5.0 for scholar
    1. Edit: Make it abundently clear that it's actually one Faerie named Lily and that Eos and Slene are her forms.... why do I always have to explain this ;-;
    2. Sch version mastery for Bio
    3. Sch version mastery for Miasma
    4. Faerie icons for summon I & II
    5. a Sch mastery for Ruin II making it broil III
    6. A moment in the questline where it's made crystal clear that it's only one Faerie named LIly
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    Last edited by Transient_Shadow; 02-08-2019 at 04:07 PM.

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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    1. Silent Dusk replaced with something more useful
    2. No more fairy swaps. Just let us summon Lily and give her the abilities of both Selene and Eos. The damn pet bar has four vacant slots to accommodate this.
    3. Fey union works like Embrace. Meaning that if Lily is out of range, she will put herself in range.
    4. Aetherflow IV (totally not happening but one can dream)
    5. Return of leeches
    6. Eye4eye once again made exclusive to SCH.
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  3. #3
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    1. Role Actions removed.
    • SCH regains Leeches and Eye for an Eye.
    • Eye for an Eye adjusted to Temper, an oGCD-channel ability which causes damage absorbed by Galvanize to reflect damage up to a given amount. Mana cost increases with time used (activation counts in itself as two seconds of use) and decreases over time until returned to normal cost.
    • Leeches now holds the stolen debuff in your Aetherpool, changing your next Energy Drain to Drain Spike and applying the debuff(s) to the enemy at variable potency. This/these, too, can be affected by Bane.
    • Mana regeneration revised as not to need Lucid Dreaming. This is true of all healers. The closest analog to Lucid Dreaming will be WHM's Shroud of Saints, which acts as a cleanse-all with no attached mana generation.
    • Miasma and Miasma II now apply Nausea, causing attacks the affected target it to slow its movement speed by 40% one second for every 100 relative potency. Thus, Break is no longer needed.
    2. All things Fairy improved.
    • Sic no longer prevents the manual casting of spells and abilities.
    • Upon swapping to Scholar, your last used pet is automatically summoned, for free.
    • Embrace (Eos) and Embrace (Selene) now share a slot and are added to the player’s default Scholar hotbar upon job acquisition. They will be added to the hotbars of existing Scholars. As always, they can be removed at any time.
    • Whispering Dawn (Eos) and Silent Dusk (Selene) now share a slot and are added to the player’s default Scholar hotbar upon job acquisition. They will be added to the hotbars of existing Scholars. As always, they can be removed at any time.
    • Fey Caress and Fey Covenant now share a slot and are added to the player’s default Scholar hotbar upon job acquisition. They will be added to the hotbars of existing Scholars. As always, they can be removed at any time.
    • Fey Illumination and Fey Wind now share a slot and are added to the player’s default Scholar hotbar upon their acquisition. They will be added to the hotbars of existing Scholars. As always, they can be removed at any time.
    • Pet movement speed increased by 40% outside of PvP.
    • Cast time of Embrace reduced to 1 seconds, down from 2 seconds.
    • If added to the hotbar, Heel/Stay are now a toggle by default. Adding both actions to your bar will decouple this action. Upon removal of the other, they will remain decoupled until either is readded.
    • The default behavior of Stay has been adjusted. A new command, Hold, has been added. During Stay, it will maintain its relative position but will ensure it is within cast range of its assigned targets, your targets, or you, in order of else priority. Thus a pet maintaining Stay will stay at max distance trailing you but within reach to do combat. During Hold it will stay regardless of the ability to continue contributing.
    • If your pet reaches such a distance as would unsummon it, it will instead teleport to within its casting range of you.
    • Pets can no longer wake dragons in Pagos and Pyros.
    • Silent Dusk now silences for 2 seconds, or, if the silence fails, leaves a 3-second debuff that will prevent the casting of their next spell and any further casts for 2 seconds thereafter.
    • Summon is now a channeled spell. It instantly creates a rune which will summon the given pet after 6 seconds (affected by Spell Speed), but one may continue to channel the spell for up to 3 seconds in order to double the speed at which the pet will be summoned. This means pet swaps can be cast, even if not completed, instantly, with a maximum of only 3 seconds spent swapping.
    • By default, Pets will weave spell casts into their movement and vice versa, thus moving for 2 seconds, casting for 1 second, and so forth repeating. Double-hitting Heel will cause your pet to fully prioritize movement until reaching you or being given another command.
    3. Fairy gauge introduced and used much sooner.
    • Whispering Dawn, Fey Wind, Silent Dusk, and Fey Covenant CDs reduced, but now consume this mana, as does Embrace. The mana cost of each increases after use, and diminishes over disuse, thus ending up around the same recast times over time as previous. Aetherflow abilities also restore Fairy mana. This slightly increases flexibility, improves pet swap value, and gives value to pet downtime while increasing the cost of pet healing and thereby decreasing the relative cost of the SCH's own healing.
    • The second "row" is the traditional Fairy Gauge, which builds with mana generated (over time and per Aetherflow) and mana spent. This is siphoned from for Fey Union, which has been reworked to be available much sooner and on-demand. It no longer prevents pet actions, but simply focuses them on one target and intensifies them while allowing the pet to swap between basic healing and healing-over-time or Attack Speed.
    4. Aetherflow cooling now scales with Attack Speed or provide some way to chip away at it that roughly scales with Attack/Spell Speed and generally cuts it down to ~40 seconds.
    5. Buff Rouse, but give it Aetherflow cost.
    6. Some Ruin synergy.
    6. More Bio-Miasma shenanigans.
    7. Maybe even allow Energy Drain (buff to 200) to work as Energy Spike on allies/pet (20% buff to a maximum of 300 relative potency bonus damage/healing / Rouse to hasten and intensify to a maximum of 400 relative potency bonus healing) and Bane to work as Pulse (Deployment Tactics) on allies.
    • In that case, change Deployment Tactics into Decisive Tactics, which produces an auto-crit (for all ticks, in the case of DoTs) for the next 2 casts at Aetherflow cost. Maybe adjust Emergency Tactics to provide a rapid GCD for the next 3 casts or so, a la Rapid Fire, also at Aetherflow cost.
    8. Just give Aetherflow IV.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 01-20-2019 at 01:11 PM.

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    Leidiriv's Avatar
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    Leidri'sae Bherre
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    SCH-unique versions of Bio II, Miasma, and Miasma II (perhaps Noctohelix for Bio and Meltdown for Miasma II? Not sure what Miasma would be)

    Maybe also a Ruin II upgrade???

    Some other use for Faerie Gauge, to add extra decision-making to SCH

    I dunno, maybe Aetherdam IV, though that would probably be OP paired with Quickened Aetherflow and Dissipation.
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    Grimoire-M's Avatar
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Adloquium no longer doubles its potency on a crit. (Cheese removed)
    New ability: Focus - Increases the critical strike chance of the next spell you cast to 100%. Duration: 15s. 60s cooldown. (Cannot exist without the above removed)

    Miasma II Reworked: Now called Putrefy - Deals unaspected damage over time with a potency of 10 over 12s. Stacks up to 3 times.
    Additional Effect: Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 10 to targets unaffected by Putrefy, 30 to targets with Putrefy I, 60 potency with Putrefy II, and 110 potency with Putrefy III.
    (Total potency is 50/110/180/270 if allowed to tick fully inbetween refreshes. This essentially eliminates using Miasma II as a weaving tool for single target damage in practical cases, nerfs their AoE burst by a notable margin, while also increasing their sustained AoE DPS by a small amount).


    Indomitability Potency reduced to 300 and cooldown reduced to 1s, down from 500 and 30s respectively. (Weaker, but far more spammable)
    Fairy ability added: Fey Cradle - Commands pet to consume 50 Fey Gauge for a 450 potency AoE heal on a 60s CD. (Note that pet potency differences will put this in line with the nerfed Indom)

    Fey Covenant and Fey Caress swapped between Eos and Selene.
    Fey Covenant changed to "Reduces magical vulnerability by 20%" for 15s. 120s Cooldown. (Buffed, but moved over to the pet that needs it more).

    New Trait: Overflow - Whenever you gain Aetherflow that would put you above Aetherflow III, you gain Overflow equal to the remainder. Overflow is spent before Aetherflow, and is only available during combat. Overflow also has a cap of 3. (Basically easier Aetherflow management. Super powerful in context with the above changes. Would like this on SMN as well tbh, but SCH is the main benefactor).
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    Transient_Shadow's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
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    Ok I'm sorry but this entire post confounds me. With Broil II (230p) using Miasma II on a single target is a dps loss. And why are you wanting to nerf their dps so hard? the majority of their dps has fall off so 650 of their dps potency is cut off by 50% after 5 targets as apposed to whm who has 200 holy potency + stun, Areo III potency 370 no fall off, and Asize (which can also be weaved) 400 potency no fall off and 400 heal potency.

    Not to mention Ast's ability to buff the entire party in more ways than one.
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Fairy glamour
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  8. #8
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    Grimoire Mogri
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    Hyperion
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
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    Using Miasma II to weave in ED is a significant DPS gain over using Broil II whenever you're free to do so, especially since doing so accelerates your aetherflow cooldown while ED pays for the cost of Miasma II. Ruin II + ED is only a marginal boost by comparison and that is the intended way to weave to begin with. It's still a point-blank AoE spell, and unless SE decides to make AoE DPS matter in Savage raids with another trash fight each tier, this isn't going to affect anything important. They deserve the AoE nerf regardless because they're able to spam Miasma II rather easily in casual content because of all the single target healing cooldowns you can weave while spamming Miasma II. The only concern I have is the ramp up damage (which is 20/50/90 for those first 3 GCDs back to back), being too weak, but if it's too strong initially or ramps up too fast then it replaces Broil and Ruin II again, and that's what I'm trying to eliminate here.

    As for their DoTs, revert the Bane nerf if their AoE is absolutely horrible as a result of this. By changing the spell to Putrefy it's no longer able to be spread by Bane too, so there's nothing to worry about there.

    I don't feel Ruin II needs a replacement or upgrade either. Weaving should have a significant cost on their DPS since they're the only healer that's able to double weave on demand, and you should be trying to do that over single weaves whenever possible.

    Also Fey Wind + Chain beats out AST's contributions with cards, making Selene much more viable with a stronger version of Fey Covenant while nerfing Eos at the same time facilitates using her more frequently in order to access Fey Wind more often, though she remains weaker in terms of healing throughput as intended. The Fey Cradle change is there to help with the Indom changes and doesn't affect Fairy balance when both are able to access it.
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  9. #9
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    Sharl Llyntine
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    1. Silent Dusk replaced with something more useful
    2. No more fairy swaps. Just let us summon Lily and give her the abilities of both Selene and Eos. The damn pet bar has four vacant slots to accommodate this.
    3. Fey union works like Embrace. Meaning that if Lily is out of range, she will put herself in range.
    4. Aetherflow IV (totally not happening but one can dream)
    5. Return of leeches
    6. Eye4eye once again made exclusive to SCH.
    Eos and Selene really do need to be merged. But this would also mean getting the fairy nerfed most likely, which needs to happen anyway I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
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    What are you even talking about? You said single target. Miasma II is 200 potency. Broil II is 230. aka dps loss. Two or more targets is when you start weaving again.
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