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  1. #31
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    MrKimper's Avatar
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    Shilnarf Silmornif
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Why not just add primals as a part of the masked carnival as some sort of floor master-esque mini boss.
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  2. #32
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    Carlo Vinne
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    Faerie
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    Why not just add primals as a part of the masked carnival as some sort of floor master-esque mini boss.
    I honestly thought that was what they were from the trailer, where you see one picking a fight with Shiva solo.

    Because a class locked at 50 is NOT going to pick a fight with a primal in solo. That's just idiotic.
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  3. #33
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Some kind of Beast Tribe thing? Like, Act 1 is the mounts or adds of that enemy from their home turf, Act 2 is the tribe, and Act 3 are the Primals?

    Ysayle would just have monsters from Snowcloak, I suppose.
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  4. #34
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    I disagree. People have started to notice that BLU's damage output is lackluster and I suspect the reason for that is because the average player doesn't have the Primal spells. Blue Mage shouldn't have put in hours of extra work just to feel useful.
    Its actually got a lot more to do with the fact that they are getting to lvl 50 not getting spells and then trying to grind spells at lvl 50.What they should be doing is masked carnivale to get moon flute so you can sync it up with peculiar light and bristle.I've noticed a lot of lvl 50 blues not getting or useing any of these spells which greatly boosts burst damage on normal spells.
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  5. #35
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Just ran my friend and a group of 6 BLU along for the ride. Took us 29 runs to get the skill from Shiva.

    How exactly did they design this? Did they intend for 70's to run them through? I can't imagine a group with just BLU getting this, this is like dog farm level drop rate. Worse I'd say actually.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 01-18-2019 at 02:39 PM.
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  6. #36
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    Enju Abbagliato
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    Its actually got a lot more to do with the fact that they are getting to lvl 50 not getting spells and then trying to grind spells at lvl 50.What they should be doing is masked carnivale to get moon flute so you can sync it up with peculiar light and bristle.I've noticed a lot of lvl 50 blues not getting or useing any of these spells which greatly boosts burst damage on normal spells.
    Stunning yourself for 15 seconds with moon flute is not a dps increase.

    Even with optimal rotation of blue mages refreshing peculiar light with perfect timing and Off-guard, they still cannot beat a basic monk in dps, with the monk making mistakes in the meanwhile, both at level 50 of course.
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    Last edited by Enjuden; 01-18-2019 at 03:04 PM.

  7. #37
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Called it. I had a suspicion they would lock spells (especially primal ones) behind atrocious RNG given their tendencies (especially recently with Eureka). This isn't glamour/mount/optional fluff either; I can't help but shake my head in disgust that they would gate a job's toolkit behind whistle/fife levels of RNG. Even if you want to shield it from criticism with the "limited" status they slapped onto it to justify how absurdly low your chances are of learning the spell, doesn't make it any less frustrating that your ability to have a job's completed kit practically boils down to the most recent EX primal's mount drop rate (that includes seeing the drop and outrolling all 7 other people).

    What gets me even more is the fact that they're probably looking at all the activity of the ARR primals right now and considering the whole thing a "success;" not unlike them sticking SB's relic in Eureka and being surprised that Eureka saw more participation than they anticipated or seeing an increase of PvP participation during the Garo event and thus the Feast chat ban is a big success.
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  8. #38
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I would say like to fix this, if you beat the fight at level 50 cap you get the spell 100%. Would get rid of the need for example of level 70s killing Shiva EX for you 80 times or more to get the spell.
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  9. #39
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    To top it all off, after all the time my friend, I, and the multiple BLU put into getting the Shiva skill... apparently, it sucks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    What gets me even more is the fact that they're probably looking at all the activity of the ARR primals right now and considering the whole thing a "success;" not unlike them sticking SB's relic in Eureka and being surprised that Eureka saw more participation than they anticipated or seeing an increase of PvP participation during the Garo event and thus the Feast chat ban is a big success.
    I think people are saying a similar thing about WoW, how the devs are focusing on statistics more than anything else.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 01-18-2019 at 04:37 PM.
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  10. #40
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    Shalya Arlemoire
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Is it so bad to have not all the skills for the Blue Mage after the 4th day of release? People often complain that there is nothing to do in this game

    I'd done Enki and Gil with a friend yesterday for Missile. He got it after the 4th run, I got it after the 13th...
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    Last edited by Sieben79; 01-18-2019 at 04:42 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    The Samurai stops performing any actions and takes two telegraphed aoes to the face and dies but still manages to get his final words out..

    "u dont pay my sub noob"

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