My Idea For Fixing Blue Mage

[Bacent]

I don't like your attitude. Please stop derailing my thread.

It's not derailing when I'm replying to your comment and using your comment as an example. You're being VERY one sided about this, and anyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong. If you're gonna post on the discussion forums, be prepared to discuss, even about something you might not agree with.

[CaptainLagbeard]

You know... There is nothing saying that BLU can't do raids.

They just can't queue up to find a PUG, they can go into any dungeon, any trial or 8 man raid as a part of a premade or Undersized party (using the undersized DF option)


The level cap of 50 will be raised at some point, unless people convince them to drop the class, when they can reach 80 during Shadowbringers, they should be more than capable of entering anything except the 24 man raid.

[DamianFatale]

It's not derailing when I'm replying to your comment and using your comment as an example. You're being VERY one sided about this, and anyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong. If you're gonna post on the discussion forums, be prepared to discuss, even about something you might not agree with.

Nope, not one sided. You can have your solo content. That doesn't bother me, but there is no problem with adding Blue to duty finder if it can be made to work.

[DamianFatale]

You know... There is nothing saying that BLU can't do raids.

They just can't queue up to find a PUG, they can go into any dungeon, any trial or 8 man raid as a part of a premade or Undersized party (using the undersized DF option)


The level cap of 50 will be raised at some point, unless people convince them to drop the class, when they can reach 80 during Shadowbringers, they should be more than capable of entering anything except the 24 man raid.

Why put all that effort in to not use it like a normal job?

[CaptainLagbeard]

Why put all that effort in to not use it like a normal job?

Mostly because of the spell selection system, I'd say.

The Duty Finder as it currently is can't guarantee the Blue Mage even has any spells learned aside from the one starting attack if it allowed them to look for groups through it. And I don't know could they do requirements aside from level and item level.

The game isn't exactly build with futureproofing in mind.

[DamianFatale]

Mostly because of the spell selection system, I'd say.

The Duty Finder as it currently is can't guarantee the Blue Mage even has any spells learned aside from the one starting attack if it allowed them to look for groups through it. And I don't know could they do requirements aside from level and item level.

The game isn't exactly build with futureproofing in mind.

Then make a system for it.

[Shougun]

Mostly because of the spell selection system, I'd say.

The Duty Finder as it currently is can't guarantee the Blue Mage even has any spells learned aside from the one starting attack if it allowed them to look for groups through it. And I don't know could they do requirements aside from level and item level.

The game isn't exactly build with futureproofing in mind.

If it could check for spells, and the kit SE designed was balanced - would you have a problem with it being able to join the DF? (With an added stipulation given that the limited side of the content isn't ruined to do so). (So given that 1. balanced, 2. low stress on groups because you don't get 1 spell blue mages in DF, 3. limited content isn't ruined then 4. DF Blue Mage okay?)

I'm hoping by late 5.5X or 6.0 release that they could have a fully functioning duty finder portion of Blue Mage, maybe enough time to make sure DF has that tool incorporated? A major balance point to making sure Blue Mage is no stress on people is that DF could check that, so my idea becomes a bit less "sturdy" if they can't but I'm not in a hurry either (I get these take a long time, given they have a lot of other stuff to work on too).

[Brightamethyst]

I think the biggest issue with all the BLU complaint and "fix" threads is many people either don't realize, or just don't want to believe that "it's not what I wanted" and "it's broken" are two very different things.

BLU as implemented isn't what you expected or wanted? That's a valid opinion and you're not wrong for having it. On the other hand, saying "it needs to be fixed" assumes that it's broken, when if fact it was designed that way intentionally. Sucks for you that you don't like it, but well, you can't please everyone.

[DamianFatale]

I think the biggest issue with all the BLU complaint and "fix" threads is many people either don't realize, or just don't want to believe that "it's not what I wanted" and "it's broken" are two very different things.

BLU as implemented isn't what you expected or wanted? That's a valid opinion and you're not wrong for having it. On the other hand, saying "it needs to be fixed" assumes that it's broken, when if fact it was designed that way intentionally. Sucks for you that you don't like it, but well, you can't please everyone.

We get it, you love it the way it is. None of us want to change the solo content. We just want it relevant, and usable in regular content.

[Nestama]

The only way to really 'fix' BLU is to get it up to max level ASAP and then make it so the only way to do Savage as BLU is: must beat the Savage raid with normal Jobs first and that the party must only consist of BLU's. Mighty Guard already looks to be the tank stance for BLU and White Wind... might be a decent healing spell?