4.5 Patch notes are live

[Fatch38]

Admittedly using Google translate for this, but in all versions it seems to be that before, the requirement was that the team was complete in order to incur the penalty, and now, it's only the first player who leaves. So basically it's a loosening of the penalty in order to spare people who leave an incomplete party just as someone joins and makes it full again

this and in the case someone leave after a kick get a penalty too

[linay]

Same for French.

So, I guess you can receive a penatly when leaving an undersized party.

Possibly, unless the change is only applicable to situations that currently have the penalty, which does not include undersized party.

[Mansion]

I don't get the endless salt on BLU. We knew that it would be kept out of basically everything. That's the point of BLU.

I think their biggest mistake was to present it as a "job" even if it is called limited.

[Reynhart]

Possibly, unless the change is only applicable to situations that currently have the penalty, which does not include undersized party.

In that case, it means that the penatly won't be applied if you leave after replacement arrived or when joining an in-progress duty, since you won't be the first to leave the duty.

But, wasn't the penatly created to prevent people from bailing off duties they don't like ? Now, you could do that freely everytime time you join mid-duties.

[BillyKaplan]

But, wasn't the penatly created to prevent people from bailing off duties they don't like ? Now, you could do that freely everytime time you join mid-duties.

You already could. Penalty doesn't apply to people joining in-progress.

[linay]

In that case, it means that the penatly won't be applied if you leave after replacement arrived or when joining an in-progress duty, since you won't be the first to leave the duty.

But, wasn't the penatly created to prevent people from bailing off duties they don't like ? Now, you could do that freely everytime time you join mid-duties.

You can't join mid-duty on a preformed/undersized party.

You already could. Penalty doesn't apply to people joining in-progress.

That too.

[SerLuke]

You already could. Penalty doesn't apply to people joining in-progress.

Wait so if I got a in prog ex primal for mentor roullete I could have just left?

[NorthernLadMSP]

I haven't participated in any of the BLU salt threads, as I wanted to wait and see the patch notes.

Now that I've read them, I'm really confused as to what the point of BLU even is. With other solo content such as crafting, there's a point and a reason to do it. But BLU? Fight enemies and learn new skills you can't use anywhere besides open world and the masked carnivale?

[SerLuke]

I haven't participated in any of the BLU salt threads, as I wanted to wait and see the patch notes.

Now that I've read them, I'm really confused as to what the point of BLU even is. With other solo content such as crafting, there's a point and a reason to do it. But BLU? Fight enemies and learn new skills you can't use anywhere besides open world and the masked carnivale?

I kinda view it like a mini game like Triple Triad or Chocobo Racing. Just a side activity.

[Blueyes]

I don't get the endless salt on BLU. We knew that it would be kept out of basically everything. That's the point of BLU.

The point of Blue Mage is that it is supposed to locked out of a variety of the game's content? I didn't know that was a staple of its identity.