Luminary tools- a real achievement

[Zezlar]

As a person who really loves Trophy's (Just got my 34th Platinum today). I must say that I really wish developers would start using them in a better fashion. Mining X, Killing X, and Crafting X amounts of enemies/gear/items is not something that deserves a reward. A lot of these will require you to be max and then put much more effort in that is required. The real achievement is hitting max. Just because you craft/mine/kill more than another player doesn't make you any better.

Obviously i'm not saying that I don't want achievements that take forever to accomplish (because I definitely do). However spamming buttons mindlessly for hundreds of hours is not the way to do it. I would rather see achievements like this (and I do believe some are already implemented):

Complete every Quest in each area/ALL Areas.
Complete the Main Scenario.
Down Ifrit/Moogle King/Batraal/ or Kill them within a specified time
Craft every item related to your class/All Classes.
Gather every item related to your class/All Classes.
Pull off a certain amount of damage (Ex. 666, or 3000)
Complete a certain amount of Crafting/Battling/Gathering leves.
Down every possible mob type in the game
Down every NM
Visit every area
All jobs max

That's how I would do it at least. Crafters/Gathers who have 50 already are screwed in this situation. The spam X achievements are the ones I will never do because they simply aren't worth the time/effort. I would rather enjoy the game than despise it.

[KingZeus]

That is ignorant. (snip)
then your a hypocrite because you think you should have gotten your successes retroactively.

saying i'm ignorant but saying "your a hypocrite" when the actual word is "you're".....
please, continue....
just another person who has failed to answer my very simple question i've posted a couple times now =/

In game right now, there are people wearing a crown for achieving something after already killing 100,000 mobs.

now, did.......they....earn..... it?

if you answer yes, i will not read another one of your worthless posts in this thread any longer

cheers

[KingZeus]

see thats what i dont get

ive done the 50 thing, but i can say for a fact i didnt do it in every region

i would probly have full credit for 1/3 of it all by now yes, but only 1/3 credit, not all 3 regions worth
and then you got those who did grade 4/5 in coerthas instead who would be even further behind

when somebody specifically askes ME if I have gathered tons of times in certain regions and i answer "yes", this actually has nothing to do with you or what you have done.
just because you didn't do it doesn't mean i have not

[HiirNoivl]

hmm... I understood people's frustration because when I saw that in the beginning, I was shocked too. However, I agree with Jennestia's points. I treated it as a hmm "lifestyle" achievement.

First of all, maybe you don't care, I'm a person not really care about fame, gear and HNM stuffs. So, this achievement is just giving more excuses to do stuffs in my own pace here and there. So, it's a challenge, and challenge accepted. I started worked on some of the stuffs after.

These tools and titles are good. However, in the end, what did you really get out of it (in real life)?
Who will remember who beat the Moogle King first?
Why you play this game (stressed, botted, not enough sleep)?
I'm not really judging anything. Just hope you guys find your own direction, and don't over stress yourselves.

For these hard-working crafters/gatherers, here is my respect. /hatoff + /bow

I like doing it!

A long time ago I would gather lots of mats and sell them. Or cook them on culinarian. It's Fun!

[Llewelyn]

That's impossible to do without tracking each synth specifically -- Exp is variable and some people (aside bots) actually risked doing higher items/leves for best XP turn out which would throw you off track of "doin x - x range".

Especially taking into considering the changes to skill point and Exp between October 2010 > December 2011.

That's why I said to do a lowball estimate. Getting it exactly right isn't possible, but if they assume you always got maximum possible gain from each individual synth, thus minimizing the total number of synths... it's a fair trade. People won't have credit for every synth they did, but they'd still get a reasonable number of synth credits towards the achievements.

[VenusDoom]

Decided to file it under "Do not care anymore." When you have powered through 5,000 synths or 7,000 gathers and earn your golden tool, how pissed are you gonna be when you check someone and see they have a two/three-materia craftable tool with just about the same stats (since STR/VIT/DEX etc. make a negligable difference anyway) that probably took them under a week to meld and allowed them to accomplish other stuff while you were hasty handing lvl 20 synths.

[HiirNoivl]

Decided to file it under "Do not care anymore." When you have powered through 5,000 synths or 7,000 gathers and earn your golden tool, how pissed are you gonna be when you check someone and see they have a two/three-materia craftable tool with just about the same stats (since STR/VIT/DEX etc. make a negligable difference anyway) that probably took them under a week to meld and allowed them to accomplish other stuff while you were hasty handing lvl 20 synths.

It won't be gold...

It only took about 1.5 hours to get my level 20 achievement for carpenter. I doubt I'll get too far behind. ^^

[Deli]

I like doing it!

A long time ago I would gather lots of mats and sell them. Or cook them on culinarian. It's Fun!

me too
That's the spirit of "A Life of Cooking"!
/respect

[HiirNoivl]

I hope after the recipe adjustments I can make a cafe for the LS. ^^ Hiir has piping hot food for everyone!

[Kinseykinz]

To be honest I'm not suprised, most of these people are used to their goals taking a matter of days to accomplish.

I personally know some of these crafters as they are on my server. I have helped them gather mats, cheered them on, watched them blow stuff up, and +3 items. I've seen them rank their first level 50 craft or DOL back in the days of fatigue...when they were only getting a fraction of the exp they deserved per chop or synth. They are not botters or lazy. And they work VERY hard to achieve their goals.