Luminary tools- a real achievement

[TheVedis]

You already Gathered in ever region at every grade thousands of times?

BS

see thats what i dont get

ive done the 50 thing, but i can say for a fact i didnt do it in every region

i would probly have full credit for 1/3 of it all by now yes, but only 1/3 credit, not all 3 regions worth
and then you got those who did grade 4/5 in coerthas instead who would be even further behind

[TheVedis]

It doesn't matter whether a counter existed or not. Like I said already some basic maths would produce a minimum of what you should have. Of course you're probably the type to argue that it's impossible to say whether you've completed at least one synth to get to 50, nevermind better estimates.

the crafting ones may be a bit more accurate, but people still wouldnt have had them all, especialy those who always did the max exp synth possible, and used the "bonus exp" items and so on

they would still be severely short of the achievemnts
but they would have some work done...

[Kiote]

It doesn't matter whether a counter existed or not. Like I said already some basic maths would produce a minimum of what you should have. Of course you're probably the type to argue that it's impossible to say whether you've completed at least one synth to get to 50, nevermind better estimates.

It is impossible to say that you have completed 3000 level 41-50 synths to hit 50. I mean I did the math. 3000 well rounded synths is enough XP to get from 35-50. The problem of course is that at 45ish you start doing 51-60 synths and at 35-45 alot of people do levequests, which give you double xp because of reward xp. There is no way to legitimately count the numbers.

An Achievement's sole purpose is braging rights. It is not proof of your past. Your Reward for completing these is the ability to say "I did it!" The actual physical rewards are useless. there is no point in having a retroactive Achievement system. It is supposed to be something to strive toward, not something to have done.

[Giant]

its just a a new 'Time-Sink" ... no fun for who already 50s, it is fun for who is lv1

This is another reason why I love SE )))

[YuriSan]

I never botted never ever in everness would. there is no reason to bot and
i like being legit and earn stuff with my sword...
But seriously i might bot my already Lv50 crafts to get the 5 Luminary tools i want. the rest of the crafts i aint got to 50
i will just rank with no botting and when i'm 50 i will just go and get my Luminary tools.. simple as that
SE kinda gives me no choice really.

[rocky]

That is ignorant. The fact of the matter is there was no tracking system in place for Crafting and Gathering Success. There was one for Killing. There is absolutely no way for them to determine how many you have done in the past.

If your argument is "They should not have gotten their kills retroactively" then your a hypocrite because you think you should have gotten your successes retroactively.

obviously you have some math problems.
put the gather aside, since most ppl only gather in 1 or 2 regions, seldom ppl will gathering all over the world.

for the craft, just add up all the exp you need to lvl divided by 250
you can find the total exp u need here http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Skill_Points
1,781,150 / 250 = 7124.6, ok u will more from higher recipe, but it definitely more than current request, plus ppl make stuffs after lvl 50.
base on the achievement request, SE just want us to lvl it again.

[Giant]

obviously you have some math problems.
put the gather aside, since most ppl only gather in 1 or 2 regions, seldom ppl will gathering all over the world.

for the craft, just add up all the exp you need to lvl divided by 250
you can find the total exp u need here http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Skill_Points
1,781,150 / 250 = 7124.6, ok u will more from higher recipe, but it definitely more than current request, plus ppl make stuffs after lvl 50.
base on the achievement request, SE just want us to lvl it again.

>>>-->>> +1

[TheVedis]

obviously you have some math problems.
put the gather aside, since most ppl only gather in 1 or 2 regions, seldom ppl will gathering all over the world.

for the craft, just add up all the exp you need to lvl divided by 250
you can find the total exp u need here http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Skill_Points
1,781,150 / 250 = 7124.6, ok u will more from higher recipe, but it definitely more than current request, plus ppl make stuffs after lvl 50.
base on the achievement request, SE just want us to lvl it again.

if you are only gettign 250 average exp per synth you are doing something WAY wrong

so id halve what you put and thats more accurate, even less then that too if you use manuals like most have been doing

[rocky]

if you are only gettign 250 average exp per synth you are doing something WAY wrong

so id halve what you put and thats more accurate, even less then that too if you use manuals like most have been doing

i don't know what u did, but for me i crafted 100~200 exp for a long time. for ppls start from cap lvl 30, they must be the same thing.

[TheVedis]

i don't know what u did, but for me i crafted 100~200 exp for a long time. for ppls start from cap lvl 30, they must be the same thing.

well ive made thousands of items for sale too so i know where i stand
but for the most part, most of my crafts were done with 500+ exp to cap
i was 50 in everything before manuals

but i do know whats what and people didnt craft up to 50 on 250 average exp per synth