BLU for Duty Finder and Raids! Show your support!

[SDaemon]

An entity within the lore with a pre-established skill-set you equip on your character and run content with. Skills and lore are unlocked via additional quests. Can hit max level cap, which is upgraded with every exception.
And just in case you still found some holes to pick at it, the fact remains they presented BLU as a Limited Job in fanfest, setting it apart from regular jobs, and then proceeded to explain how it differs (DF lock, max level currently at 50).
Saying it's a "Limited job" would require them to add an explanation? Then they should've done exactly that.

You are defining a job as something that must be able to hit max level cap upon release...why? I don't see how that is part of the concept of a job.
Because other than that restriction of yours, BLU fits your concept of a job.

And no, they shouldn't have as it was unnecessary. When people go to unlock BLU, it and the functions around it, will be explained to them in-game. Why would they need to go on an extended explanation on a teaser site over this?

Calling BLU a Job is a lie of omission.

If you choose to define a job as something that can level to 70/80 and join Duty Finder. Neither of those criteria are something I view as intrinsic to a job.

[BillyKaplan]

Because other than that restriction of yours, BLU fits your concept of a job.

And that's why BLU is a Limited Job. Or should I have added "run current content, including MSQ" to the list? Because BLU can't do that either. BLU can't use the Duty Finder either. And the list of Limitations go on.
I didn't see the need to start listing 80% of the game's content that BLU doesn't have access to to show really how they're separate.

When people go to unlock BLU, it and the functions around it, will be explained to them in-game. Why would they need to go on an extended explanation on a teaser site over this?

Because otherwise people are going to unlock BLU and wonder why they can't do all these things that a Job should be able to do. There was a lot of talk in this thread about expectations. Well this is SE actively leading people astray.

[SDaemon]

Can hit max level cap, which is upgraded with every exception.

You didn't answer why you feel that is a requirement to be considered a job.

And that's why BLU is a Limited Job.

They used the word "limited" to denote that BLU would have restrictions the other jobs did not, not to mark it as something not a job. That is why it is limited.

[BillyKaplan]

You didn't answer why you feel that is a requirement to be considered a job.

Because a lower level cap is one of the limitations that make BLU a limited job. You know, that thing SE themselves said it was. A job in XIV can do whatever a limited job can, the other way around doesn't work.

[SDaemon]

Because a lower level cap is one of the limitations that make BLU a limited job. You know, that thing SE themselves said it was. A job in XIV can do whatever a limited job can, the other way around doesn't work.

Both jobs and "limited' jobs are being classified as a job. So something is not meshing between your criteria and SE's as to what constitutes a job. I'm just trying to understand what.

[BillyKaplan]

Both jobs and "limited' jobs are being classified as a job. So something is not meshing between your criteria and SE's as to what constitutes a job. I'm just trying to understand what.

The fact that BLU is a limited job, and they should've advertised it as such. Because no one is going to look at the site and think "yeah that thing's going to be capped at level 50 and I will have no df access whatsoever".
The semantic you're championing is exactly what they're hiding behind, and why I called it a lie of omission. You can sort of say they're not wrong - a limited job is a subset of jobs in the game, with limitations. But there's a lot that they're not saying when they call it simply a "job", too.
Will be interesting to see how many "I made a forum account just to ask why BLU is capped at 50" or things along those lines

[SDaemon]

The fact that BLU is a limited job, and they should've advertised it as such. Because no one is going to look at the site and think "yeah that thing's going to be capped at level 50 and I will have no df access whatsoever".
The semantic you're championing is exactly what they're hiding behind, and why I called it a lie of omission. You can sort of say they're not wrong - a limited job is a subset of jobs in the game, with limitations. But there's a lot that they're not saying when they call it simply a "job", too.
Will be interesting to see how many "I made an account just to ask why BLU i

I'm not championing semantics. You're championing the differences between the two focused on limitations and not what about the both of them make it a job. There isn't any arguing that limited jobs cannot do things that the other jobs can and content available to the limited job that isn't to the others. I'm arguing that those differences don't make it not a job in regards to what a job actually is and as such announcing it as a new job isn't false advertisement. Could SE have gone into great deal about BLUs design on the patch site? Sure. I don't see the necessity of that though. Its restrictions and available content will be clearly given to players in-game. If someone unlocks BLU and then is confused why they can't level past 50 or join the DF that isn't on SE who provided them with that information when they unlocked it.