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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    "I can't control this, why should I have to follow the rules?"
    I think OP didn't say they should not getting punished? They said instead of a perma ban which make you lose your account and everything you worked for, you get a very long ban instead. 1 month, 2 month, etc. And that is what i find a better option. Perma ban is severe and should be used for more severe cases.

    Using colorful language is bad yeah, but to lose your long time account over it is too harsh. Maybe a 3 month ban? On other hand though, it's generally hard for people to agree on what kind punishment is right for what case and i doubt SE would put that much effort in changing their ban system/policy. Why change something that works? Still i do hope it get adjusted someday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Normalizer View Post
    I think OP didn't say they should not getting punished? They said instead of a perma ban which make you lose your account and everything you worked for, you get a very long ban instead. 1 month, 2 month, etc. And that is what i find a better option. Perma ban is severe and should be used for more severe cases.
    Sorry I misremembered that.

    I think I did skim the original post because it was too hard to follow, and absorbed most of the argument from the comments.

    I've had to go back and quote it and add line breaks myself to actually be able to read it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hope_For_Change View Post
    Hello, I've been reported in the past to the point of the next one being an account deletion and thous I feel like I'm unable to even use my main account anymore.

    This is my second account that I'm working on in the event I do slip up and lose everything. Each time I've been reported on my main account besides the first time ever have all been caused by someone else provoking me into the situation and it is not hard to make me upset and start to say things I don't mean.

    What I'm about to suggest would make it so that I won't feel as if I do slip up or someone takes something I say out of context, that I won't lose my main with almost 800 days of play time on.

    Well here is my idea for a new ban system.

    Currently the system is something like this. First time is a warning depending on what you're being reported for. Second time is a 24 hour ban, third time is a 48 hour ban while the forth is up to 1 week depending on what the report is and then after that, the last time is your account deleted for ever.

    What I'm suggesting is that you keep everything as is but change the deleted account into a 1 month long ban depending on what your being reported for. Things that would be a account deletion would include but not limited to, Hate speech, death threats, botting, hacking, RWTing. All of my bans have been made because I have extreme emotions so it is easy to set me off when someone is attacking my friends or another player who I'm siding with against the toxic player.

    My last report not long ago was because I told someone who was being toxic to a tank in o12s for not tanking the way this player expected. When we backed out and the tank left, I told this player to F off before leaving myself. This resulted me me being contacted by GMs and could of been the end of my account. It's not fair that I could lose my account all thanks to a lack of context. I understand my words said was not the right ones at the time but like I said, I'm really emotional and I end up speaking with out thinking most of the time so now I'm kinda forced off of my main in fear of for ever losing it due to my mental health.

    Please take a look at the banning times and rework it so that you will not lose your account unless it is a serious rule break like the ones I listed above. Here is another Idea that would give me some peace at mind. Have it so that after x amount of time without being reported you could take bans off your record. For example say I'm on my last warning but I've been good for a couple of months with no problems, my account would be reset back to as if I've not been reported before so that next time if I did get reported it would be a 1 day ban and not account deletion.

    I've learn to be nice and report people who are being toxic now but before I wasn't well informed on all of the rules that I broke. Please change something for people like me who got upset over someone saying/doing something to upset me and make me say things I should not of.


    There are arguments for and against more temporary bans, though the current system doesn't sound that sudden to me. Three temporary bans of increasing length before you're actually banned? If people haven't been "scared into behaving" by that point, what will it take? (And in this particular case, why has it taken until the final warning to start getting worried about saying the wrong thing and losing it, instead of being careful earlier?)

    Perhaps it's more of an issue combined with overzealous moderators or the lack of context they receive, but it doesn't sound unreasonable on its own.

    It could also be a cultural difference again. Perhaps Japanese players wouldn't possibly manage to rack up four warnings unless they really are someone who shouldn't be allowed to continue playing. (And I wonder if the Japanese moderators are better resourced?)
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