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    To Yoshi P

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    Hey man, thank you for sharing. I am sorry to hear about the health complications you've had to endure. I hope they can be eliminated where possible and if not then mitigated to the greatest possible extent.

    As for the rest I take it to understand you wanted Blue Mage to be a fully featured job? Me too. No hate from me, and frankly I still see no reason why we can't keep Blue Mage's solo content and have it a complete job able to participate in the main content of FFXIV. It will take time, it will take some effort, it may even take some iteration and multiple balance passes, but I certainly don't think it is beyond developer capabilities.
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    Things can change.

    While we want things to be "perfect" out the box, it usually takes time, number crunching and lots of feedback for things to change. The biggest example I always use is bard -- it had to be vastly redone twice to get to where it is. Anyone remember "bowmage"? There was a huge outcry about it, and it was that way for a while. The team gave them time to really get a feel for it, watch the way it performed, and how players interacted with it. In the end, cast times were taken away and bard became what it is now, without the 'stance dance' and such.

    To be honest I say let them test the waters. How else are they going to gauge ideas and player reactions until they actually put it in our hands? Who knows? Maybe it'll be pretty cool. Maybe it won't need as much work as we think. On the flip side, maybe it's all we fear and hate and will complain and point out flaws until it's fixed or overhauled. It takes time, but they do get there. Paladin finally got fixed, too. Other jobs are still waiting their turn, yes, but let 'em test a new concept and see how it goes. I have faith in the team that, even if it's something that ends up deplorable and hated, they'll find ways to mend it, but I sure appreciate them trying crazy things and ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elerus View Post
    Hey man, thank you for sharing. I am sorry to hear about the health complications you've had to endure. I hope they can be eliminated where possible and if not then mitigated to the greatest possible extent.

    As for the rest I take it to understand you wanted Blue Mage to be a fully featured job? Me too. No hate from me, and frankly I still see no reason why we can't keep Blue Mage's solo content and have it a complete job able to participate in the main content of FFXIV. It will take time, it will take some effort, it may even take some iteration and multiple balance passes, but I certainly don't think it is beyond developer capabilities.
    Thanks and unfortunately there is no cure at this time. Just trying to prevent the illness from getting worse through medication and trying to live healthier. The medications are basically like shooting in the dark. You take them and hope your body handles it well and it's able to prevent new nerve damage. I'm on my second medication right now after I ended up being allergic to the first one we tried.

    I do want blue mage to be a full job but not at the cost of what others want. The content looks great but I feel the cost is too much. I want most players to get the type of things they want in game BUT not with the price tag of what others want. That's the challenge I feel Yoshi P is shying away from. I would like to see the player base come together and be supportive in most of us getting what we want. Then for Yoshi P and his team to work hard and deliver. It's a large task but I want to believe they could do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon041065 View Post
    Thanks and unfortunately there is no cure at this time. Just trying to prevent the illness from getting worse through medication and trying to live healthier. The medications are basically like shooting in the dark. You take them and hope your body handles it well and it's able to prevent new nerve damage. I'm on my second medication right now after I ended up being allergic to the first one we tried.
    Also, not trying to be invasive or anything, but if you're having trouble with MS meds working, try asking your neurologist about "Devic's Disease". My sister was diagnosed with MS and she went through at least 4 different types of treatments, and was routinely in the hospital every 2-3 months. They went so far as to, essentially, clean her plasma and stick it back in her. Eventually another neurologist brought be Devic's and she went on the treatment for that, and she's been hospital free for about 7+ years. She's actually on a NEW treatment that's only required 1-2 times a year. I don't mean to give false hope or anything, but it may be worth looking into if your MS treatments aren't working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kidria View Post
    Also, not trying to be invasive or anything, but if you're having trouble with MS meds working, try asking your neurologist about "Devic's Disease". My sister was diagnosed with MS and she went through at least 4 different types of treatments, and was routinely in the hospital every 2-3 months. They went so far as to, essentially, clean her plasma and stick it back in her. Eventually another neurologist brought be Devic's and she went on the treatment for that, and she's been hospital free for about 7+ years. She's actually on a NEW treatment that's only required 1-2 times a year. I don't mean to give false hope or anything, but it may be worth looking into if your MS treatments aren't working.
    I'll look into it!

    I was on Copaxone injections and they were fine at first. Then started to have a lot of pain or itching at the injection sites. The final two injection sites ended up having swelling like there was half a golf ball under the skin and they hurt if they were touched. It took a few months for all of that to go away.

    I'm on Tecfidera now and had a flare up that started during the spring. Actually spent Easter in the ER because the muscle on the back of my neck had been locked up for over a week. Then started to have widespread muscle spams. Worse felt like a flat head screwdriver being pushed into my around the right side of the seventh rib. Everything has calmed down now for the most part and there were no new symptoms. Just stuff I've dealt with before my diagnosis but more intense.



    Read up on Devic's Disease some and that doesn't sound that similar to what's happening with me. I don't have problems with my vision besides needing glasses. As for the optic neuritis that I sometimes get, it's just a lot of pain and I don't have any loss of vision during it.
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    I hope that you can successfully control those flare-ups and that you'll be continuing to play with us all pain-free for years and years to come

    I'm also not particularly thrilled about the direction that they're planning to take Blue Mage -- and even less thrilled that they mentioned my beloved Beastmaster class in the same sentence as one of these "limited" jobs.

    I fear that more dev time and effort is being poured into making content for these limited jobs, and less is going to dungeons and the development of other content. I fear that this will create a dichotomy of limited vs. not in terms of "they're getting all the content we SHOULD have gotten" and building up a lot of resentment.
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    "We want bunny suits for guys!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Ishgard housing!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Viera!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Cloud's motorcycle!" -- OK! ✅
    "We want Blue Mage!"-- OK! ✅
    "We want the ability to earn past Feast rewards!" - OK! ✅ to armor
    "... and mounts?

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    Sorry to hear about your health complications. I really don't care much about BLU but I just wanted to comment because we don't see many threads like this with long-time fans of the series coming in and voicing their concerns over the state of the game. I, like you started out playing a FFVII demo when I was about 11 or 12 and eventually my parent bought the full game after they saw how much I loved it...From that point on, I got every iteration after it for Christmas. I even went back and sought out the previous games when I got older. I'm definitely a fan but over the years I can't say that I feel the same magic in the newer games that I've felt in the classics...with the exception of FFXIV because it actually feels like a Final Fantasy game.

    With that said, I do agree with you with the direction the game has been going and I've felt this way since the launch of SB. I thought the WWE advertisements were odd where they were promoting the game there and even having the New Day (a tag team wresting group) come out cosplaying as jobs from FFXIV. Then it was that odd donut collab. And the fact that they began making the game more accessible overall gimping certain jobs. I knew that things were changing. It is a business and they have to make money but I feel like at some point, they lost sight of what made people love the game so much in this expansion. However, I don't think it's Yoshi's fault though. SE has become a super greedy company so I know it's only so much he can actually do.
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    Not all content is suited for everyone. Personally, I'm looking forward to having something new to kill time with by myself.

    Also, obligatory "It's not out yet, maybe reserve your judgement until you actually experience it." If your only issue is that it can't do duty finder stuff, then there's already a crybaby thread for that.

    If you just want more new normal jobs, then congratulations, I'm here to inform you that we probably are when the expansion hits.
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    Things can change. I see why Yoshi did it. I remember how the nerf BLU mage threads and posts for FFXI was.

    I think limited jobs are a good step to see how they can balance the job for group content.
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