Hoarding Houses - Sometimes a Depressing Sight (a rant)

[Themarvin]

Why do you people even care about grandfathered houses? Don't you understand that the actual amount of grandfathered houses is pretty much meaningless and it keeps going down every week? It makes no sense to complain about a small minority of players owning more than 1 personal house when you can have 8 FC houses, with a lvl 1 character as the leader and unique member, since the restriction does not apply to FCs anymore.

Based on what data do you see the amount of grandfathered houses going down? I would certainly like to see the link or source you got it from, ty.

And that minority of players, may own 5 to 20+ houses FC/Private which is a problem when servers start to fill up, and they do, that IS what is causing the problem, just because it is not such an active problem on own server, does not mean that I can't have an opinion about the issue.

Personally I would be ok with someone owning 20 houses under one condition, and that is you pay for 10 subscriptions and have 1 personal house and 1 FC house on each.

[Penthea]

Based on what data do you see the amount of grandfathered houses going down? I would certainly like to see the link or source you got it from, ty.

You won't get a source for it because there is none that they can provide. I didn't read their last post because I have them blocked now, but other times they answered this it was little more than napkin math based on their personal experience on only one server along with conveniently overlooking anything that contested their claim.

The only ones who know how many grandfathered plots are demolished every week are SE. I seriously doubt MaybeOliverB works for SE.

Personally I would be ok with someone owning 20 houses under one condition, and that is you pay for 10 subscriptions and have 1 personal house and 1 FC house on each.

I don't know if you know this, but SE have quietly lifted the purchase restrictions on fc houses, so now the current limit is one private home and eight fc houses. A few posts ago MaybeOliverB informed me of this. SE's information about this on the lodestone is out of date. I suppose they quietly lifted it because they didn't want to encourage players to start hoarding again.

So I don't know if you mean the purchase restriction should be reduced back to what it was at 4.2, or if you were unaware that it was lifted.

And that minority of players, may own 5 to 20+ houses FC/Private which is a problem when servers start to fill up, and they do, that IS what is causing the problem, just because it is not such an active problem on own server, does not mean that I can't have an opinion about the issue.

The data centre splits makes me both hopeful and concerned. It does mean that many players who leave crowded servers will finally have a chance to get a house elsewhere, but this doesn't mean each will be a success story. I expect to see posts from people saying things like "I thought I would have the chance to get a house on <server> but all the wards are full and I can't transfer for a few days while the empty plots elsewhere are being bought. I'll never get a house." and "I left my house behind to go to the same data centre as my friends and the server I moved to has no plots left". We already saw similar happen before with the first free transfers. It's one of the primary reasons why those two players on Mateus became so controversial.

The only way SE could mitigate this without changing the system is if they bring in more wards at the same time, but as far as I recall they did not mention the intention to do so before 5.0. Of course they can at 5.0 but that's several months after 4.5.

[MaybeOliverB]

Based on what data do you see the amount of grandfathered houses going down? I would certainly like to see the link or source you got it from, ty.

And that minority of players, may own 5 to 20+ houses FC/Private which is a problem when servers start to fill up, and they do, that IS what is causing the problem, just because it is not such an active problem on own server, does not mean that I can't have an opinion about the issue.

Personally I would be ok with someone owning 20 houses under one condition, and that is you pay for 10 subscriptions and have 1 personal house and 1 FC house on each.

Based on common sense. If you still think there are grandfathered FC houses at this point or that grandfathered personal houses are a problem, I suggest reading my posts again.

[Themarvin]

Based on common sense. If you still think there are grandfathered FC houses at this point or that grandfathered personal houses are a problem, I suggest reading my posts again.

Uhm, on what source really? Really seem like walking on a thin line of maybe this or that?

It really ruins any credibility in everything as it is or at least the bold claim that grandfathered people is leaving or giving up their houses for anyone that got a private estate +1.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Uhm, on what source really? Really seem like walking on a thin line of maybe this or that?

It really ruins any credibility in everything as it is or at least the bold claim that grandfathered people is leaving or giving up their houses for anyone that got a private estate +1.

They have no creditability. They're simply defending a system which benefits them. If SE ever did intervene, they will lose almost all their houses. Therefore, they're going to oppose every possible scenario which could result in that reality.

[MaybeOliverB]

They have no creditability. They're simply defending a system which benefits them. If SE ever did intervene, they will lose almost all their houses. Therefore, they're going to oppose every possible scenario which could result in that reality.

Right, guess you skipped the posts where I've explicitly stated that none of my houses are grandfathered. lol.