SE, don't invite that journalist to Fanfest... ever.

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Normally I'd agree with you.

Except you are literally coming in here with a thiny-veiled 'but my moral high ground!' stanning for a guy who used a free trip to a fan event to...

1) Not do any research beforehand (if he was actually being honest about not knowing anything, which is still pretty damn bad considering what his job is)
2) Wasted everyone's time by asking the highest level SE staff involved with the game a public question that could have only resulted in two kinds of answers, one very clickbaity and one generic non-answer for very obvious reasons
3) Is on record to have harassed multiple attendees at the event and disparage the efforts they put into their creative cosplays
4) Wrote an asshole article about the fanbase after the fact, and little to nothing about anything that was announced pertaining to the actual game

I mean, nothing about this is even for legitimate journalistic works like criticizing how the company handles its finances or time management, or DLC practices, or anything. The guy made a conscious decision to screw with a fan gathering involving high level SE staff in full view of many other journalists in attendance as well (who probably had actual questions to ask and had to listen to this douchebag trying to bait the staff into saying something clickbaity). You literally have to go out of your way to screw this up.

Maybe if the asshole isn't interested in the actual game itself, maybe it stands to reason that he and the rest of the site should be completely blacklisted from anything SE-related. I mean, they probably wouldn't miss not being able to cover any future SE products or being able to review something like KH3 in a normally starved month like February at the same pace as actual legitimate websites, if multiple people in the staff decided they can afford to be this disrespectful towards a fan gathering of all things. (Again, consider that someone made the decision to send this ONE person, and someone else must have read over their colleague's article and decided this was a perfectly okay thing to publish instead of telling off this colleague for being a dumbass.)

SE doesn't have to suffer fools, and neither do we.

That's true. I never said anything that contradicted that. My one and only point is "that was unavoidable, that's a shame, I do hope SE won't invite them anymore, but I think we all have more interesting things to do than pat ourselves on the back and go "he really was a meanie"."

Which is basically what I was saying for a dozen messages, now, but maybe it wasn't clear...

[Bellsong]

That's true. I never said anything that contradicted that. My one and only point is "that was unavoidable, that's a shame, I do hope SE won't invite them anymore, but I think we all have more interesting things to do than pat ourselves on the back and go "he really was a meanie"."

Which is basically what I was saying for a dozen messages, now, but maybe it wasn't clear...

No, you're being clear but people are explaining to you why people should make a fuss or "uproar" about this to make it clear to SE to not deal with that company again, but you're just replying with "It happens all the time, just move on!".

Your level of apathy is part of the reason why "It happens all the time.".

[ArcaviusGreyashe]

Your level of apathy is part of the reason why "It happens all the time.".

Sure, because complaining on a forum where everyone will agree with you isn't apathy.

My "Apathy" gets me into spending time, IRL and IG, to introduce people to RP, through different means, with varying results, it got me into arguments with people that were opposed to the whole RP/cosplay thing because they thought that was a fetish, and it got me into convincing them that MAYBE, it's just something people do for fun, and maybe, they can find it cool as well. My Apathy is getting me into actually changing things, as much as I can. We can't change the way a whole website considers RP/cosplay, but if we make society change, then those websites will be considered trash, and THEN, it won't happen.

But hey, I guess it's easier to complain here than to actually get out of your way to try to convince people who do not agree with you. Can't blame you. But don't blame me when you don't know what you're talking about.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Sure, because complaining on a forum where everyone will agree with you isn't apathy.
I'm sure complaining about this in a gardening or a fishing forum would be more effective, according to your logic. Yes, let's not talk about this in the place where the people affected by it are. Let's keep the whole process hidden from them.
My "Apathy" gets me into spending time, IRL and IG, to introduce people to RP, through different means, with varying results, it got me into arguments with people that were opposed to the whole RP/cosplay thing because they thought that was a fetish, and it got me into convincing them that MAYBE, it's just something people do for fun, and maybe, they can find it cool as well. My Apathy is getting me into actually changing things, as much as I can. We can't change the way a whole website considers RP/cosplay, but if we make society change, then those websites will be considered trash, and THEN, it won't happen.
Suppressing discussion about an article that sets RP/cosplay two steps backs and demeans fans and game staff alike seems to be what your apathy has gotten you into.
But hey, I guess it's easier to complain here than to actually get out of your way to try to convince people who do not agree with you. Can't blame you. But don't blame me when you don't know what you're talking about.

If your posts about this issue so far are indication of your contribution to fight the issue, then people on this forum are doing way more torwards it than you. You do seem apathetic torwards it, except when called out by pulling the "armchair protesters" card. Well, I don't see you out on the streets protesting or enlightening people, so as far as people here are concerned, you're an armchair protester as much as they are.

[Bellsong]

Sure, because complaining on a forum where everyone will agree with you isn't apathy.

My "Apathy" gets me into spending time, IRL and IG, to introduce people to RP, through different means, with varying results, it got me into arguments with people that were opposed to the whole RP/cosplay thing because they thought that was a fetish, and it got me into convincing them that MAYBE, it's just something people do for fun, and maybe, they can find it cool as well. My Apathy is getting me into actually changing things, as much as I can. We can't change the way a whole website considers RP/cosplay, but if we make society change, then those websites will be considered trash, and THEN, it won't happen.

But hey, I guess it's easier to complain here than to actually get out of your way to try to convince people who do not agree with you. Can't blame you. But don't blame me when you don't know what you're talking about.

An article like this is going to reach a lot more people than you or I ever could by ourselves. I RP regularly outside of FF, so I understand bringing new people into it and the ideas people have about it based on articles like these. Anyone who RP's will have to deal with people who don't get it or have a heavy bias, but the point of this thread isn't to show RP/cosplay isn't a fetish, most people here understand that. It's to try and make SE aware that the company they hosted for coverage didn't give a crap about their game or their player base, to avoid some of that bias and misunderstanding spreading even more in the future.

Get off your high horse and realize the people making their voices heard here want just as much change as you do. And, that they might be doing more than just posting here like you seem to foolishly imply.

But hey, I guess it's easier to act all haughty like you're the only one that truly cares because all you can see here are people posting their unhappiness with a choice SE made and totally ignoring the fact that SE reads their forums and will respond when enough people make it clear something is wrong.

And it's called an "echo chamber" not "apathy" if everyone agrees with each other over and over. Not like that ever happens here anyways though.