[Request] BLU concerns regarding toxicity - apply to rest of game

[Sylvina]

I fail to see how it's a troll post... Sounds like valid suggestions to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Valid in the eyes of people who really dont understand or consider what will actually happen if its implemented.

[BillyKaplan]

Valid in the eyes of people who really dont understand or consider what will actually happen if its implemented.

You are more than welcome to contribute to the debate by enlightening us.

[Sylvina]

You are more than welcome to contribute to the debate by enlightening us.

I disagree.

Player toxicity, as well as player stupidity, is ultimately a player-driven problem. They will find other ways to be stupid. Adding even more needless restrictions to the queuing system just locks us out of doing the things we want. If you're queuing with DF, you basically signed a contract saying "I will consent to play with whoever the hell the system puts me with, regardless of whether said person is an idiot." There are other solutions to this problem already. You can boot the player with the vote system, or ignore their presence entirely.
I've had plenty of bad parties. Sometimes my roulette takes 45 minutes instead of 10-15. But you work with what you get. Think of it as a challenge to yourself. How can we do this with a deadweight player? Don't just give up leave, then blame the player. Take the opportunity to learn to do things in other ways.

Excluding the rather doubtful claim she made which I've removed from the quote, your question has already been answered. You pug you deal with it. that's how its always worked. not to mention the vast numbers of players who will quit of all of your WONDERFUL suggestions happen.

Also if you know much about the game at all you know that locking level 30 duties behind jobs means nobody can GET a job, the level 30 class quest must be completed first.

[BillyKaplan]

You pug you deal with it.

Only we've had the devs go out of their way of acknowledging this scenario to the point they level locked BLU and banned them from duty finder. That changes things a bit. Suddenly BLUs don't have to "deal with it", nor do parties have to deal with BLUs who are missing their skills. This gives room to have a much broader discussion.

not to mention the vast numbers of players who will quit of all of your WONDERFUL suggestions happen.

No need to get all stingy. And that's a lot of doom and gloom besides. Are we going to ignore the fact most of the game is already ilvl locked?

Also if you know much about the game at all you know that locking level 30 duties behind jobs means nobody can GET a job, the level 30 class quest must be completed first.

I'll play along and clarify that the first post was all about Duty Finder duties as I personally couldn't care less what players do when they're away from me, and I think most players share the same sentiment.

[Deceptus]

Excluding the rather doubtful claim she made which I've removed from the quote, your question has already been answered. You pug you deal with it. that's how its always worked. not to mention the vast numbers of players who will quit of all of your WONDERFUL suggestions happen.

Also if you know much about the game at all you know that locking level 30 duties behind jobs means nobody can GET a job, the level 30 class quest must be completed first.

Just because something has "always been that way" doesn't mean it's the best way to go about doing things. We were never meant to fly because we didn't have wings.