All that BLU hate is just absurd

[LauraAdalena]

This is sounding a lot like the Eureka on release discussions already... Some people like it, some people hate it, and some people are telling others they can't hate it because they are being unreasonable and stuff.

Broken expectations.

I had no expectations, and I'm let down. I'd much rather a full job.

We see rage thread, we see unsub thread, we see job reworking suggestion thread...

Feedback. May not look like how you want it, but it's feedback none the less. I don't like the rage or "I'm going to unsub" threads any more than you do, but complaining about them only makes it worse because they start telling you that you are in the wrong because you can't tell them what they can or can't complain about.

all about a piece of content that hasn't even been released.
People spent last months datamining every patch, each and every one building its own perfect fantasy of what a BLU should be.
It was more than obvious that SE was going to have a hard time pleasing everybody...

Here's the thing about datamining. We can only do certain bits and pieces. It's impossible to get a full picture of it. What people thought BLU might be has nothing to do with the datamining. And yes, they can't please everybody. There are still some people who believe Sam and Ninja should be tanks. Can we do anything about them? Not really. But we can just shrug and say "Eh, kinda late to expect that now."

And yeah, people can complain about content that's not released yet. Because sometimes we're given enough information to know we won't like it. See Metal Gear Survive and how it was nothing that the fans wanted.

Consider this :

SE didn't have to do it - YoshiP even was asked about BLU in the past, and he clearly said that knowing how BLU worked in previous FF, it would be hard to adapt it to a ffxiv job.
So I believe they did BLU the way they did it so that it would call to hardcore FF fans, by staying true to its nature. It wasn't aimed at raid fans, who already have plenty of combat class available - and will get even more with Shadowbringers (my guess is 2 : Gunblader/tank, and Dancer/healer)

SE doesn't have to do anything with this game. So? This point makes no sense. And adding that in, I'd like to point out SMN how it worked in previous games wouldn't work in FFXIV. But it doesn't work like it does in other games. It works differently.

You can call it good in your opinion. But that's not how most of the people who are complaining are seeing it. And that's fine, it's a difference of opinion, we don't need people telling others "Oh well it's not how it's going to work" because we already know that.

And the fact of the matter is, there's a lot of people, like me, who like playing a huge variety of different classes regardless of level. And the fact of the matter is, there are just as many of us who do that as people who just want to take one job to 70/80 and that's it and they're happy doing that. They wanted to do that with BLU and they can't now. That's fine for those people to voice their opinions.

It's still a work in progress.
If it works well, who knows what the 4.5 BLU will evolve into.

I could say the same for you. How do we know it won't be bad and that it will not be fun or that it will be good and fun? And when it's out and if it's bad for the people who are fans of BLU, will it then be "unjust hate"? Because I feel there will be people who like it and will say that when too. And it's fine on either side to say what you like and dislike.

People also complain about monotony : it's always the same thing every patch, 4 boss, a dungeon, more MSQ... HoH is just PotD, Eureka is just Diadem....
Now we get something completely new... I won't say it's an innovation in itself, since BLU mechs have been there for a while, but they're bringing something new, at least in ffxiv. When people just spit at any new idea the devs offer us, it makes me wonder if those people really know what they want... So once in a while you want something different from raid, dungeons, trials... What is it ? What better things could the dev spend their time on ?

First off, that's kind of mean to write off the "reworking" threads as "spitting at any new idea the devs offer us" because it's clear they love the groundwork and want to improve it, or at least that's the idea I get from some of the threads I've read. I will also say that jobs were never really a thing people had problems with outside of how all classes have the same 2.5 GCD with little variation and not too much differences in terms of how they play.

Also, saying "you don't know what you want" to a playerbase who knows somewhat what they wanted isn't really a good thing to say. As for your little "what could they be working on" thing, there's quite a lot! Just post a thread asking "what content do YOU want from this game?" and there will be hundreds of answers each with different ideas.

Quick question. The bold there about the mechanics already existing... are you talking about other games? Or FFXIV? If FFXIV, I'd like an example of that.

And people say it's solo content in a mmo game. Yes, no raid or matchmaking, but you run dungeons with a premade right ? So just get in PF (guess it should work) or get some friends to play with you!
Don't you guys have guilds ?

"you can just run dungeons with a premade, right?" and here's my problem with BLU. I don't have friends who enjoy doing content below level 70. And on top of that, the few that do are less than 4. And nobody is going to go into PF just to see if some poor tank/healer will join them and get nothing from it unless they are actually leveling or just have a lot of patience.

And no, there are some people in this who have said they don't have an FC. So claiming "Don't you guys have FCs" sounds as out of touch as the guy from the Diablo Immortal launch thing.

Also, I'd like to run Crystal Tower raids with Blu. But that's not happening in my lifetime in PF.