BLU for Duty Finder and Raids! Show your support!

[Burningskull]

FFXI had all kind of jobs, every single one being exceptional and yet useful for end-game. We should be open to new stuff that might change the actual FFXIV's "too-plain" system.



It might be a mini-game like gatherers and crafters, but at least you can call it BLU and not "just another generic job to fit the actual Tank/Heal/DPS system".

We had to accept SMN to be a "Warlock with a pet" and not a true Summoner.
We had to accept RDM to be a Caster and not a Caster/Healer/Buffer like a real RDM.

Just let BLU be BLU, let's find new ways of content instead of the "Raid only" mentality.

It's not just about "Raid only" mentality. I don't raid at all, I don't have an FC, and I queue int everything solo using the duty finder. I log in to do my roulettes and beast tribes. I level all the dps jobs cause when I do my roulettes I like to change jobs so I'm not playing the same job over and over. Not being able to take Blu into whatever I want cause I can't DF with it means I have no reason to level it other than curiosity or for the Carnival mini game.

[Duskane]

I think my biggest problem with the idea of limited job is
there will now always be that second thought that your favorite job that's not even in the game yet could just be some side content joke job
not mine at least ive come at peace that holy dragoon will never even be in the game but its a worry to others who would want a class like puppet master,Beast master etc etc

[jameseoakes]

I think my biggest problem with the idea of limited job is
there will now always be that second thought that your favorite job that's not even in the game yet could just be some side content joke job
not mine at least ive come at peace that holy dragoon will never even be in the game but its a worry to others who would want a class like puppet master,Beast master etc etc

Would it be better to get them as a specialist job than not getting them at all?

[Arkdra]

FFXI had all kind of jobs, every single one being exceptional and yet useful for end-game.

I don't know when you played ff11 but at the time that I played, this was absolutely not the case.

Limited jobs are still cool though.

[Duskane]

Would it be better to get them as a specialist job than not getting them at all?

with the limits they have put on it im sure some would say yeah

[Delmontyb]

At the start, I want to have hands-on with it, but in concept, I don't want this job in the Duty Finder. Party Finder will be the way to go

[JBee]

...but in concept, I don't want this job in the Duty Finder.

But level 47 Marauders and level 50 Conjurors are just fine in DF, yeah? Or people with so low of ilvl for a dungeon they cannot reasonably participate and make the healers work overtime just to try to keep them alive?

It's a double standard. It's ok to slouch on fifteen of the jobs, but not on the sixteenth?

Put requirements on the DF for BLU's to queue, simple as that - either specific abilities learned or equipped, certain abilities NOT equipped, or a mixture of the two.

[Alucard135]

Put requirements on the DF for BLU's to queue, simple as that - either specific abilities learned or equipped, certain abilities NOT equipped, or a mixture of the two.

In theory you have (49!/25!)=3.9216e+37 that's 39.2 Undecillion possible combinations of skills when you have 49 skills and 24 too choose from. Good luck having SE do that.

[JBee]

In theory you have (49!-25!)=3.9216e+37 that's 39.2 Undecillion possible combinations of skills when you have 49 skills and 24 too choose from. Good luck having SE do that.

It's been years since got into prob/stats, but wouldn't that be for every unique combination in a unique order? Order wouldn't matter, only loadout.

But anyway, I get what you mean though - I'm sure some of the abilities will be more "core" and some will be more situational and fringe, with a healthy amount in the middle. Some may be dps based, some healing based, some enhancement based, etc. They might not want to require 24 specific abilities, but they could require 24 equipped, or a minimum of 20 dps oriented abilities equipped. Something.

As I put in another post, I don't care if people are the top of their job - I care if they are actively participating and trying, wherever that trying falls on the performance scale. Showing up with 3 abilities total to Aurum Vale - 100% a kick as it should be. But if they showed up with 24 abilities - some decent, some good, some ok - then I don't see an issue.

Of course this is all based on assume theory from what we know in how the abilities will work.

[Alucard135]

It's been years since got into prob/stats, but wouldn't that be for every unique combination in a unique order? Order wouldn't matter, only loadout.

I borked up my math. It should be 49!/(25!*24!) to eliminate outputs of different permutations. So it goes down to 63.25 trillion possible combinations. But yeah, if they implemented something like a skill tree, then that would limit that number to something like 3-5 builds (Burst damage caster, Dot type caster or tank build?).