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    ScootPatoot's Avatar
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    I've got a small question. The Order of Nald'thal article on page 20 says that "Milvaneth Sacrarium, the temple of Nald, is crowded with pious merchants seeking to curry favor and fortune in this lifetime."

    It's perhaps a technicality, but how can it possibly be crowded with merchants if it's still undergoing renovation? If it's only open to Ul'dahns, why not state this?

    There is mention of a merchant intending to gain the Traders' favor, but this intent implies that it's a future effort. Additionally, the first lore book reads that "Now, only a chosen few may enter its halls at will, as the temple undergoes repair from the Calamity." It seems to me as though only a few people can get inside - adventurers certainly cannot.

    Much love from an enthusiast of all things Ul'dah, and thank you especially for the addition of the Eighty Sins of Sasamo page!
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    Last edited by ScootPatoot; 11-20-2018 at 10:38 AM. Reason: Adding clarification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScootPatoot View Post
    I've got a small question.
    I will defer to the lore team on this one for the final word, but I assumed that this oddity was the result of different phrasing reflecting different contexts, and that they just looked wonky when presented side-by-side. When I looked into this claim myself, I noted:

    Dewlala doesn't seem to have the same abundance of time Lalai has, so the operation clearly isn't all on or all off, especially considering we see Sacrarium officials actively involved in the persecution of crimes (most notably in the Gladiator story arc). There's also a sidequest which shows merchants are still actively making attempts to curry favor with the lawmakers in spite of the sealing of the temple proper; it's not like Order is going to turn away wealthy patrons looking to craft legislation to their benefit through large donations.

    Much like how there are some NPC merchant stalls that are always "on break," perhaps the Sacrarium just always happens to have repairs in progress when you show up. Or perhaps the repairs are so constant that they only allow a certain membership entry at specific times. The citations always come with some specific tacked on. "Only a chosen few may enter at will" or it has had no "visitors of late" or it is "sealed to outsiders". (That last one is English-exclusive, in fact - not even in the other languages.)

    But, again, yes, when you put them side by side it does look like a fair place to ask for clarification, so I defer to the team.

    (Perhaps the two scholars who wrote these two blurbs are of wildly different wealth brackets and both think they got it right. Fufufu.)
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    Last edited by Anonymoose; 11-20-2018 at 11:53 AM.
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