4.5 will be huge

[Lambdafish]

Lore justification isn't quite the same as gameplay balance and limitation.

Lol, lore justification... SE has always held by the "its too difficult, and real primals are too big and flashy to make sense in XIVs battle system", the lore justification was added into the game to give justification to the design limitation, and so that people would stop asking. Guess what, we got demi-bahamut eventually.

My theory is that BLU is coming in 4.5 to test the waters and see how the players react and use BLU, and the devs will continue to ease the limitations within reason. Its something different and new, and for now it is being played safe, so saying "It's forever, lets riot" is jumping the gun at best, and straight up ignorant of how the developers operate at worst.

[Nariel]

Lol, lore justification... SE has always held by the "its too difficult, and real primals are too big and flashy to make sense in XIVs battle system", the lore justification was added into the game to give justification to the design limitation, and so that people would stop asking. Guess what, we got demi-bahamut eventually.

My theory is that BLU is coming in 4.5 to test the waters and see how the players react and use BLU, and the devs will continue to ease the limitations within reason. Its something different and new, and for now it is being played safe, so saying "It's forever, lets riot" is jumping the gun at best, and straight up ignorant of how the developers operate at worst.

its pure delusion. People will play it the way it is to be played, How do you want it to be played another way ? It will be played in the ARR open world, in the mask carnival and in spell farm party in ARR content. The whole way he will work isn't the same as any other job, its solo oriented class for solo play most of its lifetime they were really clear on this point.

Having an enormous flashy primal masking half your team mate screen is still not the same as balancing jobs and bosses to be well... balanced. Blue isn't and wont be balanced for anything but mask carnival cause its the only place he has to be relevant.

As a teamate I damn hate this demi-bahamut, masking my view of the battlefield for "look at me I call bahamut" reason.

[Saefinn]

I mean if you want to get pedantic, minds can change, especially if they've turned out to be a bad decision. I thought ARR was proof of that. Whilst I think change is unlikely, but I would not be so absolutist as far as change in the future goes. SE makes mistakes, things don't work out, fans complain and sometimes SE adapts to said complaints.

Any system within the game can be changed, granted some would be more difficult and time consuming than others, but the only limitations are "what SE are prepared to do" and they'd weigh the benefits and costs of doing it.

[Deceptus]

Just for now be happy that it is in the game. Maybe with enough demand, they will let it raid.

Be happy you got this poop sandwich. We know it's not what you wanted, but be grateful!

[Mirakumi]

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You can nit-pick me all you want. But you know damn well that's not what I meant.
I've played this game for years. From Start to now. I've learned to be a very positive person when it comes to SE.
They can always make adjustments to the game and nothing is definitive.

If you want to be the negative onlooker - you have that right.
I am glad it is in the game ONCE AGAIN because SE said it was never going to be.
Which means they are OPEN TO CHANGE.
Meaning nothing is definite and if you can't follow that.
That's on you.

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Thank you. I appreciate it because when it comes to SE. I've had many back and forths with them. I am a BRD. As you know SE had many adjustments to BRD and made them into one point casters. Fans drove it hard into them and eventually, we have the BRD that moves around freely now in SB. Many rejoiced. I'm just trying to put into peoples minds into ease. It's not the end of the world. Change is still possible.

[Rizon]

Despite SE calling it 4.5 parts 1&2 this is, in reality, 4.5 and 4.6. The timing is right (early Jan & late March) for 2 separate patches. The only thing that connects them is the Main Story line as I understand it. Other then that each part will have unique and important parts. Part 1 will introduce Blu Mage while part 2 will begin the new server set up and world visitation. Most of the new content will be in part 1. Most of the system adjustments will be in part 2. IMO these facts make them 2 separate patches.

[Saefinn]

I'd say you're absolutely right Mirakumi. Nothing is guaranteed. We don't even know without a shadow of a doubt that it will be awful. I understand there are reasons for pessimism and for concern, as SE doesn't have a brilliant track record, but they also can do things right.

They can rework jobs, they can rework battle systems, they can rework anything they so choose. That's the wonderful thing about software development, any aspect of it can be changed if there is the desire to. And changing minds is a perfectly human trait.

[Crushnight]

Be happy you got this poop sandwich. We know it's not what you wanted, but be grateful!

its more like you asked for ham and cheese sandwich but get ham and pickle. its half way there(job name/theme of aquiring abilities) but not quite(df restriction and lv 50 cap). now me personally i am going to try it out and see if becomes a new interesting flavour never had before or just a poop tasting sandwich

[Lumadurin]

a playstyle we never had before

Play Black Mage and gleefully stand in AoEs instead of reluctantly standing in them.

[kikix12]

Play Black Mage and gleefully stand in AoEs instead of reluctantly standing in them.

Blue Mage doesn't need to be hit by the attacks to learn them, so what you said is completely ignorant of what was said about the job.

Heck, they even spent few minutes on this very point, making it extremely hard to miss.