BLU for Duty Finder and Raids! Show your support!

[BubblyBoar]

People seem to think FFXI is the BLU that everyone is comparing to. BLU has been pretty different across all games in the series with the main component being learning enemy skills. The BLU I love most actually comes from FFEx and Trine was one of my favorite spells. In fact, that game adjusted the monster spells you learned, like bad breath, to be usable in the game that it was in. Every game modifies the class a bit to make it usable, there is no reason FFXIV can't do the same!


There are so many skills and moves for them to pick from to make a base rotation. They don't even have to change the current system. Just have it so that there is a preset that needs to be learned and equipped for the DF and endgame raids. The "default" BLU. You'll still have to learn them like every other ability you learn as a BLU, but that preset is your requirement for endgame.

[Shadowshinra]

People seem to think FFXI is the BLU that everyone is comparing to. BLU has been pretty different across all games in the series with the main component being learning enemy skills. The BLU I love most actually comes from FFEx and Trine was one of my favorite spells. In fact, that game adjusted the monster spells you learned, like bad breath, to be usable in the game that it was in. Every game modifies the class a bit to make it usable, there is no reason FFXIV can't do the same!


There are so many skills and moves for them to pick from to make a base rotation. They don't even have to change the current system. Just have it so that there is a preset that needs to be learned and equipped for the DF and endgame raids. The "default" BLU. You'll still have to learn them like every other ability you learn as a BLU, but that preset is your requirement for endgame.

Exactly, there are 49 skills currently, you're telling me they couldn't take what.. 10-16? Skills to make a standard set? Heck they have a basic aoe rotation from what we've already seen, Bad Breath (Bosses remain immune to 99% of the debuffs but it does damage) Aqua Breath into Shiva's Bow skill. It then has it's basic utility out of things like Mighty Guard and and White Wind, Perhaps even a melee combo with Goblin Punch and Needles and the like..

[Ilan]

I actually said that exact thing in a post on the second page, and that fact doesn't invalidate the argument. The devs should slowly lift restrictions on lower level content, and design content like PotD to accommodate the uniqueness of BLU. But they should never be able to raid, or do high end content specifically designed for party synergy. Forgive me for having rationality, and seeing both the good and bad in something, rather than throwing my pitchfork at something new.

You know the problem here is that SE implemented a class that people can't play in every content. Its not that i care but a lot of people wanted to have the BLU to play it in the content they enjoy and thats not possible because SE decided to make it to broken.
I mean its a joke in itself if you can't play a class in normal content in an mmo.

[Quinn_Lioncourt]

I wasn’t super hyped for blue mage but I do have good memories of playing it in xi. I feel for all the people who have waited years for their favorite job only to have to rug pulled out from under them. I get that it will still be playable in old content but only through party finder. Personally I’d rather any job not be made than for it to be restricted like this.

[diruulth]

yes please, it’s an mmo not a single player game

[Luin]

BLU doesn't work for party content, don't pretend that it does. What we would get is this, or a watered-down imitation of BLU, which would generate backlash regardless. This is BLU exactly as BLU should be, and putting it in a party scenario wouldn't work because it can't be balanced against other jobs. This is how the backlash looks:

Community: "We are bored of the predictable formula, give us something we have never seen before"

Devs: "Here is a brand new concept for how jobs are played, and here is BLU exactly as it is in other games"

Community: "Nooo, we never asked for that"

Also, in other games, BLU had interesting monsters to fight. We don't have that. Sorry, please look forward to more FATEs.

Next relic will require BLU Crystals.

Since this whole "limited job" is reskin of Atmas btw.

[Tenetennba]

You know, I kind of understand where they're coming from. A job like Blue Mage can be hard to balance, so if only there was a system present in the game that allowed you to have a core set of abilities and swap them out for situational ones based on the duty you go into...

[Balipu]

I don't think I'll miss duty finder. As for the rest, I'll first play a bit and check how fun broken pimp is, before deciding wether it should be changed or not.

[Jandor]

I don't know, the DF argument just doesn't make a great deal of sense to me.

If you're worried about people not having actions then lock job quests behind acquiring a set amount of monster actions, then lock duty finder behind job quest completion.
Want to queue level 70 content? Complete the level 70 job quest.
Want to do the level 70 job quest? Best unlock 40+ actions.

Also not opposed to having a more limited but more balanced BLU for duty finder content, and gimmicky all out mega BLU for Carnivale, PotD and unsync meme runs.


Edit: I wouldn't mind so much if it wasn't so incredibly separate. Every class and job can in some way contribute to your characters overall power, combat jobs through fighting for gear and tomes, crafters through making gear, pots, food and gatherers through getting the mats for crafters. Even fisher can help in some niche cases.

Blue Mage doesn't seem to contribute in any way at all though, even if it was something minor like gathering extra bad breaths to make (a more balance version of) 'bad breath scrolls' for use by other jobs it would be something. A sort of disciple of magic pseudo combat/gatherer/crafter job.

[Zakon]

I don't think I'll miss duty finder. As for the rest, I'll first play a bit and check how fun broken pimp is, before deciding wether it should be changed or not.

Why do you think it's being locked out of doing duty finder content? It's never going to be playable in challenging content, it's not designed to be played in a group. They said this under no uncertain terms.

You may not miss the duty finder, but I guarantee you that you'll miss being able to do challenging group-based content, which the blue mage cannot do under their current design goal.