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  1. #181
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    Viridiana_Sovari's Avatar
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    Veroth Ursuul
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    This is a waste of development time pure and simple. They made more compromises with SMN, BRD, and RDM than they would have had to with BLU.

    They literally could have implemented it the same way, tweaked how abilities worked for balance and to have some sort of rotation, and the abilities make it if in a specific role. Make it so that depending on your level you have to have a certain number of skills slotted to queue for content.

    Would it have been harder to balance...sure. But it would have also been the first job with some actual depth in the game doing it that way. Instead we get a half measure that will be nothing but disappointment.

    The saddest thing is that since this content is coming out in 4.5 people will be really bored for 6 months and play the content... which will cause them to see it as a success and replicate it for another job the community wants just to disappoint all over again.
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  2. #182
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    Barachim Vandal
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    I don't know, the DF argument just doesn't make a great deal of sense to me.

    If you're worried about people not having actions then lock job quests behind acquiring a set amount of monster actions, then lock duty finder behind job quest completion.
    Want to queue level 70 content? Complete the level 70 job quest.
    Want to do the level 70 job quest? Best unlock 40+ actions.

    Also not opposed to having a more limited but more balanced BLU for duty finder content, and gimmicky all out mega BLU for Carnivale, PotD and unsync meme runs.
    I agree with this. If the excuse is that Blue Mage is locked out because it may lack the required skills, then make it fair and apply this to every job. Oh, you're level 60 but haven't done your last 4 Job Quests? No Duty Finder for you.
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  3. #183
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Barachim View Post
    I agree with this. If the excuse is that Blue Mage is locked out because it may lack the required skills, then make it fair and apply this to every job. Oh, you're level 60 but haven't done your last 4 Job Quests? No Duty Finder for you.
    Yeah I wouldn't be opposed to doing it for everyone at certain points. Want to queue 30+, unlock your job stone. Want to do 50 stuff, do your level 50 quest, etc.
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  4. #184
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    Balipu's Avatar
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    Tea Mysidia
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    Phoenix
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zakon View Post
    Why do you think it's being locked out of doing duty finder content? It's never going to be playable in challenging content, it's not designed to be played in a group. They said this under no uncertain terms.

    You may not miss the duty finder, but I guarantee you that you'll miss being able to do challenging group-based content, which the blue mage cannot do under their current design goal.
    I'll have dozens of jobs for that. Broken pimp is there for giggles. And while it is not designed for group play you can still go into group content. Provided you can form a premade party.
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  5. #185
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    Zelahra Virasch
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    I'll have dozens of jobs for that. Broken pimp is there for giggles. And while it is not designed for group play you can still go into group content. Provided you can form a premade party.
    Everything that the Blue Mage can do in a party, can be done by other jobs as well. If running easy and outdated content is fun to you, you don't need to wait for Blue Mage for that. Make an unsynced group and go do it right now, on whatever you currently main. See how much fun you have, I'm going to guess not much since it won't be challenging at all. That's what BLU is going to be. That's what got dev time from a small and already taxed development team.

    Losing an iconic job to this system is a tragedy, and I don't wish to see them repeat it with other jobs. I would rather them just not add a job than put it in this stupid purgatory of being in the game but not "truly" playable.
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  6. #186
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    that DF lock idea with no job quest done is a nice idea ive had paladin in Doma castle who hasnt done any job quest pass fifty
    "if you used clemency we could have easily finished off that boss"
    "i know im not an idiot! i just dont like job quest"



    BUT to lock an entire job out because of dummies like that just not very fair on the people who really wanted this job
    im not a fan of Blue mage but they definitely should make it a real job.
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  7. #187
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    So after you get your actions and finish the carnival after a week or two what is the point of the limited job? Seems like they made getting the actions "rare" to pad out the job.

    At least at 70 I can do other things, all of the content in the past 5 years. You can't do that with BLU.
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  8. #188
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    Wylantar Aderyn
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I really hope this thread actually changes something but somehow I doubt it will. I'm sure it's already been said but I'm not going through hundreds of posts. It worked in FFXI. Quit being lazy and just balance the class for group content. This limited job system is just going to be the place where our beloved jobs get pushed aside for an easy way out.
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  9. #189
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    Skyskip's Avatar
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    Kip Skyskip
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I joined these forums just to show my discontent for this direction for BLU. It ABSOLUTELY needs to be playable like every other class. Limited Jobs are a bad idea and a creative dead end waste of resources.
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  10. #190
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    Lysandre Ghiramour
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    I don't post here much but I'm outraged enough.
    The sheer stupidity that is making a "solo job" in an mmorpg that you're supposed to enjoy with friends or jolly strangers is so incredibly baffling it made me question the devs' sanity during the panel reveal.
    There's no feasible excuse as to why you can't have your learning skill system, Carnivale, etc and be unable to DF or raid; the BLU doesn't have all of the skills needed for a piece of content? Guess what, neither did the random paladin I got the first time I did Shinryuu at level 70.
    People will do things incorrectly in Duty/Party/Raid Finder and is their responsibility to correct their mistakes as players, not the dev team's, so that excuse is moot to start.
    Skill is too powerful and will break the boss' mechanics? Now that is the devs' field of competence, it's a matter of balancing and it can be done, so another useless excuse.

    I'm not against the idea they had with BLU, it's original and the Carnivale concept is interesting, but people do want to make this job their main, they want to play with friends without having to un-synch and they want to raid; I know it's too late for Shadowbringers but my hope is that they reconsider balancing it so the job is available for both modes, because if this becomes a precedent, the future with "limited jobs" in this game is not something I look forward to.
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