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  1. #211
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    Hestzhyen's Avatar
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    Hestzhyen Voer
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    Gilgamesh
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    I sincerely hope what was announced is just the start of SE helping people out with the shuffle. Some players have had 4+ years to build relationships in their datacenter and now they're stuck between a rock in a hard place. I myself could go anywhere since I play solo now that all my friends and FC mates have quit, but I know I'd be peeved if I had a social network that was suddenly in peril.

    That said, this move needs to be done. If we want SE to keep improving the game they have to improve the infrastructure that supports it. And if they have to take such a disruptive route to start the process then the results damn well better be worth it.
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  2. #212
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    Nalien's Avatar
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    And all we get is a free world transfer.
    Which doesn't even come close to cutting it, IMHO.

    Even if I want to forget friends/etc., world transfer sucks. OK they remove some of the limits, such as the Gil cap, but that's really not the issue. Having to rebuild everything you've built up is; Your Free Company and Housing. Do they even remove the Free Company Entitlements restriction with this? Because if you're a small Free Company with a House moving server? Good luck.

    If there was a system where you can just transfer your Free Company, complete with everything attached to it over, I'd be slightly more OK with all this. Losing all progress on Airships/Submarines though, watching your old plot get taken while your grinding for Free Company Entitlements though? No thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    That said, this move needs to be done. If we want SE to keep improving the game they have to improve the infrastructure that supports it. And if they have to take such a disruptive route to start the process then the results damn well better be worth it.
    Did they announce anything at FanFest that remotely made it sound worthwhile? I haven't been paying full attention but from what I've gathered 5.0 is set to just be more of the same... I glanced a Q&A in which they basically said they'll keep sticking to this same old tired formula... So what are we gaining from this exactly? Heck even if they announced something like a reworked, newer and better Hamlet Defense (something I've wanted since 2.0 and think would work perfectly as Grand Company Squadron content), I'd be very sceptical just based off recent history... Diadem and Eureka haven't been all that amazing, nor has Deep Dungeons (HoH added new auto-win mechanics with Primals and a bigger room, not the greatest development in the history of gaming). They'd need to pull out something absolutely amazing for me to go "OK, this is worth it", and instead they seem to have pulled out... Nothing...

    I think they mentioned some new Gold Saucer stuff? Even if we jump the gun and assume that is Blitzball... Lords of Verminion has still left a bad taste, so forgive me if I expect a complete disaster. Might be fun to enjoy with my friends though... Oh wait...

    Yeah, I really don't think they could announce anything that would make this seem worthwhile... Any initial hype would instantly be tempered by "but I wont get to enjoy playing it with...", Blitzball or Hamlet Defense could be a literal gift from God and it wouldn't matter when half your friends are gone...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 11-18-2018 at 02:32 PM.

  3. #213
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    They really need to add 2 fresh new servers to each current datacenter that only allows transfers from people being forced off, along with moving fc's and houses as is.

    That everyone on the moving servers would select to move servers rather than move to Crystal would probably cause the same problems though.

    But at least they would see that this is a horrible idea.


    For reference, between my friends list (that aren't my server) static, crosworld linkshell and my recent contacts (people I do content with)..

    3 people of 164 are also moving to crystal. 1 is balmung or mateus.

    There is no silver lining here. Losing 3 of the most active party finding /raiding servers to gain 3 of the lowest pop servers from primal.

    That's fucked.
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    Last edited by Barraind; 11-18-2018 at 02:54 PM.

  4. #214
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    DuskTS's Avatar
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    Sayonara Moogle, you will be missed I'm sure.
    Also goodbye to the raiding population on Odin and Phoenix.
    You did it SE, you saved the EU data center!
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  5. #215
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    Roda's Avatar
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaati_Kigu View Post
    Just a reminder for those who watch the live letter anyone else notice once they showed this the room went dead quite.
    my static member who was at fanfest said they weren't dead quiet, but quietly talking amongst themselves, I assume, trying to figure out what the h*ck they're gonna do.
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  6. #216
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    DracotheDragon's Avatar
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    Asuka Kiyomi
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    when it was announced my FC leader pinged the discord saying that they might move to another server so i might be left behind on balmung this news is a bit ehh, i don't like the idea of most of my friends leaving the datacenter,

    the main way i can see this being mitigated is after a while they add in the ability to do dungeons and PF cross DC for a whole region that way even though were on separate data centres the instance dungeons are all connected.
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  7. #217
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Put me in the “my static got screwed over!” Club.
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  8. #218
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    Taisai Jin
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    So would I be correct in assuming the reason behind this is likely the World-Visit feature? I can see that adding extra stress to the servers that would require such a split... If so... Honestly I can live without that feature, when you spirit away half my friends like this it's already a fairly redundant feature anyway... Delay this whole mess until you can work on a cross-data-center feature that effectively removes the negatives of this change...
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  9. #219
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    but adding new worlds to current NA centres wouldn't of made much difference in the grand scheme of thing
    I honestly think that it would have made some difference.

    Because there’s talks already of large raiding FCs planning to move to Aether to be with the rest of the raiding community, and having 1 new server on each Aether, Primal, and Crystal would have given those FCs that are moving the opportunity to rebuild things like their FC house. As it stands now, unless they secure a house for their FC on a smaller server, they won’t have one; and they seem keen on not staying on Crystal because the raid scene is going to be comparatively smaller compared to Aether and Primal.

    Same could apply to other FCs that have recruited members from other worlds that are now facing the decision to give up their FCs or to give up the static members that aren’t on their server. It’s a tough situation for some people, but I think at least 1 new server on each new DC could have helped mitigate and allow for rebuilding to some extent.
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  10. #220
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    I wonder if more people are going to transfer to gilgamesh because of this
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