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    34 pages. You all are slacking.
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    I just wish that Omega, Louisoix & Moogle be put to the Light DC.

    Seeing that Chaos will be the 'raid' DC I'd rather have Zodiark, Phoenix and one of those German servers with us.
    There's too much wipes in party finder as it is, don't want more.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    I just wish that Omega, Louisoix & Moogle be put to the Light DC.

    Seeing that Chaos will be the 'raid' DC I'd rather have Zodiark, Phoenix and one of those German servers with us.
    There's too much wipes in party finder as it is, don't want more.
    Square Enix choose to do the split between the language and as said previously the split in terms of raids is rather good. Seems like Chaos will be english/french and Light english/german for the most part.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ally_balanced/

    Chaos isn't the raid DC :P

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    Last edited by era1Ne; 11-23-2018 at 01:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by era1Ne View Post
    Those 4.1 numbers really hammer home how potentially pointless this whole split is... We really need this kind of split when an expansion has little over a 50% retention rate in players? Boy am I glad I get to lose friends and housing so there is more room for a bunch of players that aren't even going to stick around... Guess this is the MMO version of "New customers get the better deal!"

    At least the raiding community will be healthy on both sides, but it's still going to be smaller and that will create issues... Chaos always felt like a good example of why XIV should have single regional based data centers, rather than multiple data centers per region. Just look at how active Feast is on Chaos compared to the rest of the world (at the time of writing, 10 players have reached Diamond tier, 7 of which are on Chaos), and that's PvP, nobody even does that and it's more active on Chaos because we're all in one place... That should be the future, not more splits... That kind of future costs too much though, I guess... I'm sure it's a much more sound investment to put more money into DLC to cancel in the future, that'll make more money back somehow... Knowing SE, XIV is on the "make do and mend" portion of its life (oh wait, that's been the case since launch), and Final Fantasy XVI Online is getting nice new quality servers instead of us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    I just wish that Omega, Louisoix & Moogle be put to the Light DC.

    Seeing that Chaos will be the 'raid' DC I'd rather have Zodiark, Phoenix and one of those German servers with us.
    There's too much wipes in party finder as it is, don't want more.
    I was unaware that the server you played on determined how good or bad you are at the game, good to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
    I was unaware that the server you played on determined how good or bad you are at the game, good to know.
    Apparently it does. There's this fairly dead beaten horse known as "Balmung" that people like to point at. Then there's the much fresher dead horse known as "Mateus".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevonEllwood View Post
    Apparently it does. There's this fairly dead beaten horse known as "Balmung" that people like to point at. Then there's the much fresher dead horse known as "Mateus".
    You realize Fhaerron was talking about EU DC, right? We don't have Balmung or Mateus there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You realize Fhaerron was talking about EU DC, right? We don't have Balmung or Mateus there.
    Thanks for letting me know that my examples to a stand alone statement of "I didn't know being on a certain server determines how good you are" don't work. I promise to curb my enthusiasm in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tizzy_Tormentor View Post
    I was unaware that the server you played on determined how good or bad you are at the game, good to know.

    I've transferred to Omega at the start of SB and I've stayed there for over a year. There is really no denying that there isn't a high amount of 'raiders' on Omega, take a look at that picture that other guy posted with the raid numbers.
    Moving to Cerberus was the best thing I ever did in this game, I've been getting much more fun and there's much more like minded people on this one.


    There's a lot of RP on Omega, and that's something I'm bad at but you guys over there are pro at it, or at least quite a lot you.


    The EU DC is the least populated and the raiding community is absolutely the lowest compared to the US & Japanese DC's. And everything combined the raiding community is just low everywhere.
    What they did now was took the already abysmal raiding community and split it between Chaos & Light.


    First and foremost we never needed a second DC, we don't have enough people for that.
    Now they want to, what they could have done was put all the RP & 'casual' servers together in one DC, especially with the new visit world feature you could all visit each other worlds, one big happy family and then put the raid servers in the other DC were all the players care about that other part of the game.

    But no, they wanted to put (in an already low number of people) 2 totally opposite kinds of players together...


    There's going to be a mass exodus and currently it looks like Chaos will be the destination for 'dedicated raiding', might change though seeing as Ragnarok is on Light ... time will tell, there's word about this on Reddit.
    Anyway the mass exodus is gonna be annoying for everybody to find new houses and all the other 'settling in a new server'.

    SE could have avoided this by putting the 'raid' servers together in one DC and put the RP and 'casual' servers in the other DC or just not adding another DC in the first place.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    There's a lot of RP on Omega, and that's something I'm bad at but you guys over there are pro at it, or at least quite a lot you.
    I see people parrot this all the time, that Omega is the "unofficial EU RP server" and honestly, I can tell you right now that there isn't any more RP activity than say, Ragnarok, which I played on for a while with an alt, in general, you won't find RP unless you look for it, almost every server has RP communities, as someone who actively plays on Omega, the idea that it has more just because someone named it the unofficial EU RP server is nonsense, just because someone on reddit declared it so, doesn't make it so, same as how Moogle (my original server) has the status of "unofficial French server" despite the fact that, once again, I saw no more French players than I saw on Ragnarok and English players were the most prominent.

    SE could have avoided this by putting the 'raid' servers together in one DC and put the RP and 'casual' servers in the other DC or just not adding another DC in the first place.
    You seem to be under the misunderstanding that a servers unofficial status means anything in the grand scheme of things, just because a server has a higher raiding population than another means very little in how they shuffle the worlds, considering a servers status as "unofficial X server" is coined entirely by the community and not SE.

    You also still seem to think that if players aren't from a raid server, it equals more wipes in party finder, which is just hyperbolic and a bit rubbish to be honest, players who raid on more raid oriented servers aren't automatically better than those who don't.
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