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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    I wouldn't have a problem with this, as long as they divorced something that a majority of the playerbase wants from something a minority enjoys.
    The only thing SE learned from Diadem's iterations was to add highly desired rewards to **** content to get those participation numbers up. They know darn well most people wouldn't do Eureka if there was a feasible alternative to earn those rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    The only thing SE learned from Diadem's iterations was to add highly desired rewards to **** content to get those participation numbers up. They know darn well most people wouldn't do Eureka if there was a feasible alternative to earn those rewards.
    Your statement could be applied to most of FFXIV's content (especially PVP). Honestly I feel less and less incentive to log in FFXIV at time pass, as the quality of other games that are released over the year increase, and the quality of FFXIV's content isn't improved over the patch/years. What was fine in 2013, isn't in 2018, especially when ARR was cool but could have been vastly improved.

    This is a fallacy, especially with how connected people are nowadays. While online representation shouldn't necessarily be taken as 100% definitive, if opinions are incredibly lop-sided, they often represent the majority. We have seen this quite infamously with the Mass Effect 3 ending controversy, Star Wars lootbox shenanigans and Battlefield V's... issues. In all three cases, EA or the development teams behind each respective game insisted the widely unanimous negativity reception was just a vocal minority. And in every single instance they lost millions for that belief. The FFXIV sub reddit has almost 200,000 subscribers. Even if we generously assume half no longer play but simply didn't bother to unsubscribe or have accounts both on reddit and here, that is still half the entire NA playerbase represented on reddit alone. And the overwhelming opinion is negative. Granted, Pyros has been more... divided at least.

    Regardless, it's quite disingenuous to dismiss the online community as small.
    Don't bother, some of these people advocating for eureka have been whitekniting for years now.

    I'm willing to believe the silent players are doing the exact opposite to what you're saying. They aren't enjoying Eureka. They are QUITTING. By the thousands. Because they aren't satisfied. This is an issue. It should not be ignored. We, the backbone, should not be ignored. EU, the underdogs should not be ignored. But it's too late, we already lost 150,000 of our people. And EU is on life support Thanks alot SE. I guess it's okay though because at least the JP are happy right?
    My guess would mostly be that JP players aren't necessarily happier, but as MMORPG aren't as developed over there as it is in other regions (as an example, wow has never been released in Japan) , they have less alternatives.
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    Last edited by Stanelis; 11-11-2018 at 08:48 PM.