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  1. #11
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    Aster_E's Avatar
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    Aster Enelysion
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    TY again, everyone.

    Also: I came in here to fix the image links since I'm more than awake to process where that went wrong last night. xD
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    Voltyblast's Avatar
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    Rama Kagon
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    Warrior Lv 80
    I don't do eureka but if anything this basically makes me think what a huge bullet I dodged for not sinking time into it.

    Still great job but it's a shame they won't even read it and instead - and most likely - read the positive stuff from Eureka from the JP forums instead.

    Those few they'll be able to find at least...
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  3. #13
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    Nol Lac'nala
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    A well thought out and detailed critique. I agree with all the points raised.
    I'm not very hopeful for change though, there have been plenty of suggestions of ways this content could be made more engaging but none of the fixes so far provide any variety in game-play for people who do not like the grind.

    Unlike previous relics it looks like the SB relic will be available for a very limited time, unless people are determined enough to grind through it solo, but I very much doubt there will be many who could stomach that. It's worrying that so many resources have been poured into this, yet I've heard nothing from the devs to indicate they have considered longevity or keeping Eureka (and the SB relic) viable after the expansion.
    This was actually a major problem I saw once they showed how the Eureka systems would operate. There's zero foresight. If you miss the train, when the content is relevant and people are actually doing it, you're probably hosed. I can go back and do the older relics and only queue times stall me, provided I don't simply unsync the older dungeons. If you're late to Eureka you're probably out of luck.

    Similar to trying to get a Kinna weapon as a glamour. Despite being a multiple years old weapon, you're expected to run POTD 51-100 several times to get 90/90. For an outdated glamour weapon.
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  4. #14
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    Mihn Saruihn
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by NolLacnala View Post
    Similar to trying to get a Kinna weapon as a glamour. Despite being a multiple years old weapon, you're expected to run POTD 51-100 several times to get 90/90. For an outdated glamour weapon.
    Except that people still run PotD to level, there will always be sprouts who will run it, sure it will be slower without a more dedicated party but still doable. Can't quite say the same about Eureka's relics.
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  5. #15
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    Rasler-heios Nabradia
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    Tonberry
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    This is like reading my mind about Eureka. Very well written, from the maps, to the combat, the abysmal story, down to pointing out that it was fun for some few people out there but not for the majority (I got in to an argument about that one in another thread).

    One of the few things I didn’t agree though is that sample using FF8 and Chrono Trigger..

    Other than that I hope improvements really do get implemented.
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    Last edited by Rasler_Heios; 11-05-2018 at 07:02 PM.


    "Is adventuring not supposed to be glorious? I thought it was supposed to be glorious." - Vath Deftarm, Dravanian Hinterlands, An Acquired Taste
    "That's a fine accomplishment lad. Young and lusty as you are, no doubt you'll achieve much and more in the years to come. I look forward to hearin' all your deeds." - Jonathas, Master of the Rolls, Old Gridania

  6. #16
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Yes and yet they went and put the kitchen right into it >_>
    They put the vegan kitchen there. You still have the regular and the fast-food kitchens elsewhere.
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  7. #17
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    Just take all my likes. If there is one thread that the team at SE need to read on this content, this is it.

    And I dread the idea of trying to solo this content in the future. The Pagos light grind would be hell. I hope we can gain light in Pyros, as I only have 1 out of the 6 elemental weapons I want, but to hell with going back to Pagos. May it burn in Pyros' wake.
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  8. #18
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    Aster Enelysion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash_ View Post
    Just take all my likes. If there is one thread that the team at SE need to read on this content, this is it.

    And I dread the idea of trying to solo this content in the future. The Pagos light grind would be hell. I hope we can gain light in Pyros, as I only have 1 out of the 6 elemental weapons I want, but to hell with going back to Pagos. May it burn in Pyros' wake.
    I appreciate the likes for the sake of earning them, but having even more likes is the best way to get SE's attention, it seems. So by all means spread this topic around if you want to help give it more.
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  9. #19
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    Ethan Vayne
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    I agree with everything here. Except saying FF8 had a garbage story.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    I just think that if they don't do some drastic changes, there is no feasible way this content lasts in the long run. It can't be solod, and good luck getting anyone to group in there.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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