Request: Make Pagos NM Items Obtainable

[Dragoon4life]

I wanted my dyeable DRK armor so I went in to Anemos to get it. I had most of the +2 stuff. I went in twice for about 2 hours each and managed to get the scorpion harness, strider boots, Faf minion at least once. The Devs have drug their feet long enuf to do something about Pagos. This garbage content is so bad that I just turn off the game and do something else. Thanks SE for giving us EXACTLY what begged y’all not too.

[CassandraJean]

I don't suppose we could extend this Request to the emote as well? I've been farming the cold lockboxes for days, and only have seen materia.
Please, please, raise the rate of the /shiver drop, or maybe even add it to the NM regular lockboxes at a low rate?
It's so frustrating trying to farm something locked behind three layers of RNG. (Mutation / Maybe you will get a lockbox / tiny chance of getting the emote)

[Duskane]

honestly they just need to make the fates spawn and drop rates like anemos
weather and night related fates pop really fast etc etc
that plus a triple the Pagos crystals from fates would be a reasonable nerf to the place when pyros is out

[Nestama]

People will enter Pyros; I see plenty of level 35s out there. The longevity though will definitely be shortened if nothing changes with Pagos.

Either way, bottom line is that nothing significant will happen to Pagos until Pagos is no longer "current". That's just always how it's been in this game.

I feel Pyros will have less people entering it compared to Pagos, though. Since Anemos was easy to reach level cap and isn't a terrible map like Pagos is.

[Vahlnir]

I feel Pyros will have less people entering it compared to Pagos, though. Since Anemos was easy to reach level cap and isn't a terrible map like Pagos is.

It'd be one thing if Pagos was meant to truly be challenging. All it ended up being though was a means to slow people down as much as humanly possible. They didn't even try to mask that.

[HyoMinPark]

I feel Pyros will have less people entering it compared to Pagos, though. Since Anemos was easy to reach level cap and isn't a terrible map like Pagos is.

I have to agree with this. Simply because of the players that never bothered to start or finish Pagos—much like the ones who never bothered to finish Anemos. Pyros will see traffic, but I think it will be less than Eureka’s first two areas.

Myself, I currently have no plans to finish Pagos and enter Pyros. I don’t have issues with grinds when I have something to show for it—something that isn’t a complete waste of my time; I do have issues with grinds where I feel like I get nothing to show for it—or where I feel like I have wasted my time, or where my reward wasn’t worth the time spent on it.

[Fhaerron]

Lol, all these threads keep coming.


I'm glad I never even finished the quest of Diadem 3.0.

[HyoMinPark]

Once the final form is out there and all zones get nerfed to the ground people will finish it.

Which will be in 5.0. 5.0 is when all the Eureka zones will be nerfed per previous relics’ example. I wouldn’t really call that a successful relic if people wait an entire expansion to actually do and complete the content.

[HyoMinPark]

I don't know, they said Pyros (anyone only wanting to just follow a fate train better wait one week or so before going in) will be like Anemos and once they nerfed Pagos to the ground as they did with Anemos people will finish it before 5.0 if they like the final form.

As a personal opinion, I won't call any of the relics a success outside the first step for ARR relic.

I think you’ve probably misunderstood me. I’m not saying people won’t do the content once it’s nerfed. I’m sure there are those who will. But, even still, there will be some who will just choose not to participate in it at all.

I’m currently in the latter camp, because I’m just simply not interested in the relic this expansion—Pagos killed it for me (I actually enjoyed Anemos enough to do all 15 weapons and get halfway through completing all 15 gearsets). I feel like the ball was dropped on it pretty hard with Pagos, so I’m just opting not to do it. Who knows if my feelings will change, but they’re pretty solid right now in the “I’m not interested” camp. Which sucks, because if Pyros is good, well then: oh well. I don’t want to go through Pagos.

Personally, I think HW’s relic was relatively successful. The unidentifiable step was brutal, but the steps afterwards were all fairly easy to do, and I don’t remember many complaints about them (only the unidentifiable step).

[Fynlar]

I don't really see how Anemos was nerfed into the ground at all. There's an EXP boost but as far as I can tell it only applies to regular enemies and not the NMs (that or it's such an insignificant boost I don't really see it), and nobody really did those to level anyway. The grinds for the actual gear are still the same as ever, the same amount of stuff drops per NM and the gear all costs the same amount of stuff. The only real difference is that now you can skip Pazuzu, but nobody ever skips Pazuzu anyway; every instance I join people are still itching to go and kill him.