I feel it's time for more housing wards again

[MaybeOliverB]

I am just gonna assume you are extremely trolling at this point by saying that since the most expensive housing was 320 million gil.

Housing was great as an FC only feature. People didn't feel as stupidly entitled as they do now regarding owning a home. By the way, no one's ever purchased a large at it's maximum price back in the days because of the devaluation timer. You're just bitter and uninformed.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Housing was great as an FC only feature. People didn't feel as stupidly entitled as they do now regarding owning a home. By the way, no one's ever purchased a large at it's maximum price back in the days because of the devaluation timer. You're just bitter and uninformed.

Boooooooo MaybeOliverB Booooooo

Reminder to take anything he says on housing with a grain of salt. He is a major part of the problem and owns more than half an entire ward of empty homes.

[Frizze]

SE is not trying hard. They are busy working on other games.

Also you can tell me otherwise but glamour dressing is limited to 200 and it took two patches for them to know their mistakes.

It is still using spaghetti codes from 1.0 and it is reaching limits. They need to use entirely new engine.

Um... you realize that SE has more then 1 team of designers right? And youre wrong on the glamour dresser too. They said upfront that they were starting smaller to make sure that it didnt cause a bunch of other issues and that they would expand it(size and function) as it proved stable. That isnt acknowledging a mistake, its being extra careful in feature implementation.

But obviously some people don't want instances because they care about neighbors that don't really care so much.

Most of the people arguing for this in the threads ive read are from your server. They cant RP correctly if their neighbors cant see them or something. Never understood it myself.

Im not going to add much more to the argument here. Weve been told that housing wards are more stressful on the servers then other zones, so theyre hesitant to add more(the fact that 3/4+ of the servers have open plots available to buy right now probly doesnt help things). If they were able to upgrade the apartment system to having different styles/sizes and finding a way to make the missing features work it would make a lot of people happy. But honestly, the more i read of your comments it seems like you just have an ax to grind. Dont know why, dont really care, not my problem.

[MaybeOliverB]

Boooooooo MaybeOliverB Booooooo

Reminder to take anything he says on housing with a grain of salt. He is a major part of the problem and owns more than half an entire ward of empty homes.

Wow. Thanks.

[Ryaz]

I've started saving up again just in case they release more wards in the Mist or even Ishgard (yeah right). I love Shiro, but if I can move my Mansion to the Mist, I'd be a happy camper.

Only issue would be having to transfer so much stuff out of the house. I'm at 400 items and near 400 in storage. Can't transfer with that much stuff. XD

[BoazJochin]

not sure what is going on, in your server but on mine, we have over half the wards empty on all houses. Maybe we have a low pop server

[Ariane]

It's easy enough to say "things should have been done this way instead" in hindsight. It doesn't change that we need to deal with what it actually is, make our suggestions for how it could be improved and hope SE is able to do something to make housing closer to what players want. I'm genuinely hoping they'll have announcements about updates to housing options to share with us during the Fan Festivals.

Its nothing new though. It might be more understandable if SE did something never seen before, but they obviously based their housing on LotRO neighborhood system. But then they greatly reduced the number of neighborhoods(wards) and then on top of that remove the restrictions that help it work out. LotRO always only allowed one house per server per account. Large houses are for the kinships (free company) houses, and the smalls and mediums are the personal houses. This separates the individuals housing from the FC housing, and would make it easier to make sure FCs got houses.

Turbine seemed to understand if they were going to go with a ward system, they need restrictions on it and need to have many plots. Why didn't SE seem to understand it? If for some reason SE can't do enough wards and if they don't really like restrictions such as one house per server or only FC can get larges, etc, then they should have done instanced housing.

[geekgirl101]

I believe more medium/large houses should be made available. There's FC houses that can't upgrade because there's no bigger plots. People still sell large plots for people to upgrade to via party finder. Large houses should've been made exclusively for FCs but I guess it's too late to change that now.

[geekgirl101]

It is still using spaghetti codes from 1.0 and it is reaching limits. They need to use entirely new engine.

This. It would take years to rewrite an entirely new engine and cost SE a lot in having to recruit and re-train new staff, not to mention the time it would take in re-training new staff, plus there aren't that many software developers out there despite it being a booming business especially in the gaming department. Rewriting a new engine would also reset everyone's progress as you're essentially creating a new game, this is what happened with ARR and this was with existing code. Even if they gave everyone level 70 and all the gear and items they wouldn't be able to give you the overmelds, houses etc, plus it would be a hell of a lot of work going through every single player to give everyone everything they had in the previous version. Anything slightly out of place would anger a lot of the players and cause them to rage quit. It's not worth it in the end.

[Jojoya]

I believe more medium/large houses should be made available. There's FC houses that can't upgrade because there's no bigger plots. People still sell large plots for people to upgrade to via party finder. Large houses should've been made exclusively for FCs but I guess it's too late to change that now.

It wouldn't make a difference. Too many players create dummy FCs with temporary members so they can buy a house then remove the temporary members so it effectively becomes a personal residence. One of the posters in this thread is a good example of that.

SE would have to enforce some sort of active membership requirement to retain a FC house and that would be difficult to implement without negatively impacting legitimate FCs with members who take a break from the game on occasion.

The best interim solution at this point would be to make the existing house interiors available as apartment options. It doesn't solve the issue of access to a yard, intercross gardening or workshops but it at least provides an option to individual players who are only interested in interior space to decorate. SE could then work on changes to the ward system or an instanced housing system that has the same features of houses in ward without being in a ward.