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    Player OurMom's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    See, this is the problem with you. Right here. What matters to you isn't always what matters to others. The world doesn't revolve around your ideas of "fun".
    It's not about me because I don't make the calls, Yoshi P does and guess what? It doesn't matter to him either lol. It's nothing that can be done so use the next best thing. Plus the latter part of that sentence is actual features in those games. You actually *need* houses to craft relevant gear or to craft anything beyond beginner levels, that's not like it is here so it's not needed.

    You guys think he's out of touch, I said I don't think he is. Let me guess only your opinion matters because you're upset about something? If it "mattered" and was the key part of the game, it wouldn't have been implemented this way.


    Glamour is also an attraction, and a very big one in this game.
    Glamour is an optional side that's in every game, I mean it wasn't even in this game when it first re launched. It's not an "attraction" it's just the only thing that "lasts" due to the casual playerbase. If you're here for the subpar glamour system there's way better games.

    For everything else you said you can either buy buffs or use FC housing you don't need your own personal house and if you aren't playing for longer than 30 (or 45 days) you don't need any of it.
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    Last edited by OurMom; 10-20-2018 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurMom View Post
    It's not about me because I don't make the calls, Yoshi P does and guess what? It doesn't matter to him either lol. It's nothing that can be done so use the next best thing.

    You guys think he's out of touch, I said I don't think he is. Let me guess only your opinion matters because you're upset about something? If it "mattered" and was the key part of the game, it wouldn't have been implemented this way.
    Funny, I never claimed that those who think he's out of touch were the only opinions who mattered, and everyone who disagrees is 100% wrong. I just agree with the sentiment, and if people don't? That's fine and that's their right. But there are solutions to the issue we're discussing. Something COULD be done, but SE, or Yoshi P, simply won't. They are perfectly capable of fixing this and many other issues in the game. Even the things that "matter" are implemented in the most convoluted ways possible. However, you still seem to be missing the point: what matters to you isn't always what matters to others. I hate to sound like a broken record, but I will keep repeating it until you understand. And you clearly don't yet.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 10-20-2018 at 12:41 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Player OurMom's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Funny, I never claimed that those who think he's out of touch were 100% correct and everyone who disagrees is 100% wrong.
    Might want to check on your arm with that reach there buddy. It was heavily implied especially with that "It doesn't matter what you find fun" when I never even implied that.

    But there are solutions to the issue we're discussing. Something COULD be done, but SE, or Yoshi P, simply won't.
    How do you know they won't vs they cant? Companies lie all the time so I'm not some super naive person and this company has in fact lied before. But there's no proof that they simply won't especially when they're really accommodating to the casual/fluff player base.

    However, you still seem to be missing the point: what matters to you isn't always what matters to others. I hate to sound like a broken record, but I will keep repeating it until you understand. And you clearly don't yet.
    When did I say what matters to me is the key thing here? And it's what matters to other, when you can copy and paste that, let me know. All I said was housing aren't "needed" and that's not based off some "opinion" it's simply facts based off how the game works. They just simply aren't needed so it's not like there's a huge problem and he's like "whatever" there's no "real problem" since housing is optional and it's never stated any where that everyone will have one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    you must use your own FC's house for them, assuming your FC has a house for it.
    All of which are player created issues, there's a lot of servers with a lot of housing available. If you choose to stay on the most populated server (you in general, not you personally since people can't read here) with limited resources how is that the developers fault?

    just have them instanced like duty instances.
    That's probably the entire problem here I'm not well versed in coding or making mmos but I have noticed that mmos where everything isn't instanced (like sandboxes) don't have this "resource" problem, even the older ones that were created when 1.0 was made.
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    Last edited by OurMom; 10-20-2018 at 12:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurMom View Post
    When did I say what matters to me is the key thing here? And it's what matters to other, when you can copy and paste that, let me know. All I said was housing aren't "needed" and that's not based off some "opinion" it's simply facts based off how the game works. They just simply aren't needed so it's not like there's a huge problem and he's like "whatever" there's no "real problem" since housing is optional and it's never stated any where that everyone will have one.
    You went and said so yet again. You don't think it matters, but others do. There's no fact that says because it's optional it doesn't really matter, making your facts simply opinions. I'm not going to claim that my opinions are facts, but I will stick by them. In an MMO, housing could be someone else's raiding, and vice versa. Technically, anything in this game is optional aside from the story, so...please do enlighten me as to how housing doesn't matter simply because it's optional, when basically every other piece of content in the game is also optional.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 10-20-2018 at 12:55 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurMom View Post
    For everything else you said you can either buy buffs or use FC housing you don't need your own personal house and if you aren't playing for longer than 30 (or 45 days) you don't need any of it.
    I would just like to clarify on this, I meant the grade 3 buffs specifically. These cannot be bought, you must use your own FC's house for them, assuming your FC has a house for it. Gardening with crossbreeding is much the same, you need either a personal house, or an FC house that lets you do gardening, to access it (you can't crossbreed in apartments). Hence why I mentioned them perhaps allowing apartments to do crossbreeding. That way we can reduce the need for personal housing further.

    But, I do feel it should still become instanced even if it becomes FC only (with apartments for personal use). One ward for each area, no subdivision. Each house gets an instanced exterior and interior (and you would have options at each plot to type in the name of a free company, or "Go to your FC plot" should your FC be plotted there, perhaps also phase the instanced areas so they have a different house in the plot for each player?), and you would go to the area. No more multiple wards clogging up CPU cycles. Just have them instanced like duty instances. Plus, in doing so, it will also enable cross-realm free companies, and solve their housing issues there too (since I believe I read somewhere they were working on cross-realm FCs as well). Then, the challenge becomes how to allow maps to be done cross-realm, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.