A self-improvement tool is needed in this game, especially for end game

[Vnolan]

It is not only healthy for this game and also for the community.

this should be required to join parties in party finder.

The latest reasoning given by the Devs is they don't want to split the community and if they made it personal only, players would request screens or some other proof before allowing entry. Your wish to have it required for PF backs up their first reason, and while many players already vet through similar means, having an official parser would increase the number that do it.

Those are the official reasons. If we're being real, they probably also don't want to add one because they don't have the manpower to deal with the numerous reports of dps harassment that would result and they would prefer not to ban any more players than necessary. They are a business after all.

The Devs are well aware that parsing is one of the top requested QoL changes. Making yet another topic asking for one won't do anything.

[Whanext]

The latest reasoning given by the Devs is they don't want to split the community and if they made it personal only, players would request screens or some other proof before allowing entry. Your wish to have it required for PF backs up their first reason, and while many players already vet through similar means, having an official parser would increase the number that do it.

Those are the official reasons. If we're being real, they probably also don't want to add one because they don't have the manpower to deal with the numerous reports of dps harassment that would result and they would prefer not to ban any more players than necessary. They are a business after all.

The Devs are well aware that parsing is one of the top requested QoL changes. Making yet another topic asking for one won't do anything.

You are right, and I have read the Devs answer as well. This is also the reason why I did not say "parser" in my original post. I only hope that there is something to help people to improve in the game.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

The latest reasoning given by the Devs is they don't want to split the community and if they made it personal only, players would request screens or some other proof before allowing entry. Your wish to have it required for PF backs up their first reason, and while many players already vet through similar means, having an official parser would increase the number that do it.

Those are the official reasons. If we're being real, they probably also don't want to add one because they don't have the manpower to deal with the numerous reports of dps harassment that would result and they would prefer not to ban any more players than necessary. They are a business after all.

The Devs are well aware that parsing is one of the top requested QoL changes. Making yet another topic asking for one won't do anything.

Frankly, I believe a vetting system would do far more good than harm. If people could more readily set expectations, it helps mitigate potential hostility. Think about it. If a PF is set up where the creator lists they want no less than 6,500 from all four DPS. Why join that party knowing you will be parsed and you will draw justifiable ire unless you match the expectation? You could, instead, join a party where the expectations are lower, thus meeting like-minded people. One of the biggest issues with obscurity is you're pitting all types of skill levels in the same environment. The devs seem to think veteran players will simply carry those underperforming to victory. And some certainly will, but it invites far more hostility, especially in the West as perception of individual player is measured higher than the overall group performance.

[Lastelli]

The devs seem to think veteran players will simply carry those underperforming to victory. And some certainly will, but it invites far more hostility, especially in the West as perception of individual player is measured higher than the overall group performance.

I agree. Unfortunately, I feel like the devs don't really understand how things work in the West. I would really love to see a grading system in the game. Something akin to DMC system where the better you play, the better your rank becomes. Alternatively a grade at the end of the fight. It's probably harder to implement than a simple dps meter, but since they seem to be so against the idea of an official parser, they should really make an effort to find another way to let players know how they're performing. Also, it assumes that the devs' idea of "good performance" is the same as the players', which is not necessarily true since they proved countless times that they don't relly get how their game works when it comes to optimal healing and party synergy. But they need to at least try, otherwise we will keep seeing threads about "toxic elitists with unreasonable expectations" and "filthy casuals that expect good players to carry them".

[KaivaC]

But they need to at least try, otherwise we will keep seeing threads about "toxic elitists with unreasonable expectations" and "filthy casuals that expect good players to carry them".

I think the casual side of the playerbase needs to grow a thicker skin and learn to stop whining when somebody gives them general tips about their job. This coddle mentality is probably part of the reason why the devs are so insistent on simplifying things and trying to bridge the gap, when all it does is just irritate players. Players need to stop being so quick to call harassment when they are told in nicer words that their playstyle is harming the group as a whole. And SE needs to stop developing current level 70 content (like what we got prior to 4.4) that coddles braindead play.