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    Player AppleJinx's Avatar
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    Apple Jinx
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    Always thinking you played like garbage is a good motivator for improvement. 5.3k is honestly on the low side. Set small goals for yourself each week like try to do 200 dps more every time you enter the fight and you will start doing decent dps in no time
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJinx View Post
    Always thinking you played like garbage is a good motivator for improvement.
    I've found it unhealthy way to demotivate and frustrate yourself.

    Nothing wrong with assuming you can improve, then you're always on the look out for the small details you can push further on, but assuming you're rubbish and play terrible is disheartening. If you always have that attitude, somewhere along the line you think "what's the point in trying, I'll always suck".

    Noticing you're doing fine is encouraging. Then you want to push further and do better than fine and be the best and that starts looking like a realistic goal.
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJinx View Post
    Always thinking you played like garbage is a good motivator for improvement. 5.3k is honestly on the low side. Set small goals for yourself each week like try to do 200 dps more every time you enter the fight and you will start doing decent dps in no time
    No, it really isn't. Now thinking "Hmm, what can I do better?" is one thing, but thinking you're always rubbish (aka failing) is quite another, and is very unhealthy. Take it from me, that thinking you're always rubbish mentality almost got me sectioned under the mental health act (and still having to get professional support for it). If you think that's healthy, then I don't know what to say...
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJinx View Post
    Always thinking you played like garbage is a good motivator for improvement. 5.3k is honestly on the low side. Set small goals for yourself each week like try to do 200 dps more every time you enter the fight and you will start doing decent dps in no time
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I've found it unhealthy way to demotivate and frustrate yourself.

    Nothing wrong with assuming you can improve, then you're always on the look out for the small details you can push further on, but assuming you're rubbish and play terrible is disheartening. If you always have that attitude, somewhere along the line you think "what's the point in trying, I'll always suck".

    Noticing you're doing fine is encouraging. Then you want to push further and do better than fine and be the best and that starts looking like a realistic goal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    No, it really isn't. Now thinking "Hmm, what can I do better?" is one thing, but thinking you're always rubbish (aka failing) is quite another, and is very unhealthy. Take it from me, that thinking you're always rubbish mentality almost got me sectioned under the mental health act (and still having to get professional support for it). If you think that's healthy, then I don't know what to say...
    Just wanted to add my two cents here...

    I call myself garbage about...6/10 as a joke. The intent is to not let myself get a big head and rest on my laurels, or basically as a reverse Dunning-Kruger. At the end of the day though, I know what I've accomplished, and I know that I'm not absolute garbage bin material (at least recycling bin).

    I don't use calling myself garbage as my drive to improve, however. Maybe reverse Dunning-Kruger (Kruger-Dunning?) isn't entirely too healthy, either, but I agree that constantly beating yourself down as your drive to improve isn't the best way to go about things.

    What AppleJinx said in her second sentence though I agree with completely: set small goals for yourself to improve. Maybe not numerical (200 dps per) but definitely mechanical. As an example, this tier on RDM my goal has become to not waste mana (meaning, avoid overcapping at all costs). This involves me getting creative with spending mana before bursts and working harder to time them with the minute-to-minute burst windows.

    Simple, mechanically understandable steps forward should be the focus. Numbers will follow.
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    Saleemius Arishiani
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    Quote Originally Posted by AppleJinx View Post
    Always thinking you played like garbage is a good motivator for improvement. 5.3k is honestly on the low side. Set small goals for yourself each week like try to do 200 dps more every time you enter the fight and you will start doing decent dps in no time
    This honestly could also work the other way around as a demotivator cuz eventually if the stress piled too much it would only make their anxiety worse and if they ended up being depressed than motivated,they're more likely to stop playing rather than keep going

    A better way in my opinion,even if it's a bit similar to what you said,is even when you do good you say "I can do better" rather than devaluing the progress you have made thus far.
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