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    Is it possible to put too much pressure on yourself?

    Having gotten involved in some discussions lately, I have to ask, is there such a thing as putting too much pressure on yourself? This started in another thread, but I didn't want to take away from current discussions, so here I am. Under my pen standards for myself, I'm averaging about 5.3k in damage as NIN on O9S with my static. I regard myself as a garbage player because of those numbers. My question is two fold.

    Is it possible that I'm being too harsh on myself? (I have reason to believe that my numbers are bad made on other discussions I've been involved in on the forums)

    The other question is, is it possible to put too much pressure on yourself, whether it's in casual or raiding content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Having gotten involved in some discussions lately, I have to ask, is there such a thing as putting too much pressure on yourself? This started in another thread, but I didn't want to take away from current discussions, so here I am. Under my pen standards for myself, I'm averaging about 5.3k in damage as NIN on O9S with my static. I regard myself as a garbage player because of those numbers. My question is two fold.

    Is it possible that I'm being too harsh on myself? (I have reason to believe that my numbers are bad made on other discussions I've been involved in on the forums)

    The other question is, is it possible to put too much pressure on yourself, whether it's in casual or raiding content?
    Yes. If your just doing normal content, there's no reason to stress over damage numbers or rotations. As long as your staying alive and dealing the damage, your helping your team out. Always remember that FFXIV is an entertainment product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Yes. If your just doing normal content, there's no reason to stress over damage numbers or rotations. As long as your staying alive and dealing the damage, your helping your team out. Always remember that FFXIV is an entertainment product.
    Admittedly, it does bleed into casual content for me as well. If I miss a trick on a dungeon boss, I get incredibly frustrated because I just hurt my team because of that. I regard my damage numbers in dungeons in much the same way as I do in raids. If it comes to my attention that I'm doing less than what I think should be my numbers, I try to push myself harder because it feels like i regressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    The other question is, is it possible to put too much pressure on yourself, whether it's in casual or raiding content?
    This is something I'm certainly guilty of. I am very patient with other people's mistakes, but I have very little patience for my own. It doesn't matter what content it is. I am very unforgiving for my own mistakes. While this attitude towards my own performance keeps me on my toes it can be damaging because I end up ruining my own fun by internally overreacting to even just minor mistakes. It's not healthy to be like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    I'm averaging about 5.3k in damage as NIN on O9S with my static. I regard myself as a garbage player because of those numbers. My question is two fold.
    I'm no expert on nin but I do know that personal dps can only take you to a certain point. If your static isn't lining up their buffs with one another that can very noticeably affect dps. Also given that you're melee you will suffer more from lack of uptime compared to ranged dps, so your positioning for certain mechanics could be affecting your dps as well. Adjusting positioning assignments could increase your dps.

    Of course your personal dps could be better but doing the above would help, and it's something you should do anyway if you have the luxury of coordinating with a static.
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    I'm actually in perfect positioning with my static since we stick with two melee, two ranged. The one thing that hurt me the most in our initial prog runs was in the opener when the boss would suddenly turn to cast his Damning Edict. That particular attack lines up exactly with when I'm about to hit trick attack, and I used to just have one second to react and hope I can get it off in time. I've been having to use true North for this fight more often than I'm comfortable with,but my uptime is pretty good with our current setup.
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    Don't be to hard on yourself! You are capable of mistakes as well as getting better often I'm pissed at myself for simple mistakes and it does nothing but mess with your self confidence...I tend to forget to enjoy the game becuase Im a try hard lol so don't forget to have fun too
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    It is very possible, and from what I've seen you are way too hard on yourself and need to take a step back and breathe.
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    Yes. Even in casual content, it can be fun to outdo yourself.

    If it's no longer enjoyable -- anywhere -- and something you see as an obligation, you're pushing yourself too hard.

    As for how it can work against you, go back to when you first figuring out how to manage positionals and how you'd end up clipping gcds by focusing too hard on the positional. Extrapolate.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 10-14-2018 at 01:48 PM.

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    Honestly I am in the same boat as you. If I so much as miss a geirskogul or miss align a jump in normal content I beat myself up even though I am probably doing some of the best dps if not the best dps because other ppl know to chill in easy content. This results in me being very stressed and disappointed in my runs. The only thing that has helped lessen this issue is just not playing my main class in every day content. For some odd reason I cannot take a deep breath as a drg, but if I switch out to nin or rdm I find myself having more fun. Perhaps try this and see if it helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    Honestly I am in the same boat as you. If I so much as miss a geirskogul or miss align a jump in normal content I beat myself up even though I am probably doing some of the best dps if not the best dps because other ppl know to chill in easy content. This results in me being very stressed and disappointed in my runs. The only thing that has helped lessen this issue is just not playing my main class in every day content. For some odd reason I cannot take a deep breath as a drg, but if I switch out to nin or rdm I find myself having more fun. Perhaps try this and see if it helps.
    Having an alt you enjoy playing "badly" is a great break, for sure. Running through a dungeon as a "helpful" scholar, pulling wave after wave of mobs, throwing rescue on the tank to make sure they keep up, and somehow figuring out how to survive it all without caring about 50% overhealing is a great break from playing a dps. I just don't ever make people suffer with it in extreme or savage. Or letting the sam main tank because the tank got a sad when they pulled early is a lot of fun, too.

    Especially if the tank gets locked out.

    Ooh! Or running a 4 healer dungeon.

    Just make sure "badly" still aligns with your role's pillar while also stealing someone else's. You're fine to pull out a bizarre tank or healer as long as the job gets done [meaning, big pulls and everyone's alive] but there's wiggle room in exactly how you make that happen. DPS classes have a little less flexibility in terms of being stupid-yet-doing-your-job though.

    Actually just roll an overhealing healer. You have a blank check to do whatever you want as long as people don't die, instant queues, and especially if you've unlocked mentor roulette an endless supply of shitshows to participate in. You can swap between overhealing tank god and overhealing damage demiurge as you desire.
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