Things to think about before you call someone "Bad"

[Sigma-Astra]

It was only a very specific poster that did that, not people in general. There's nothing to debunk because there's no way you could ever justify calling someone bad in the context of an online game. From friendly advice to accurate assessments, you can disguise bad mouthing behind as many terms as you want. No real company is ever going to acknowledge your cause.

If you're bad at your job and I call you bad for not using your entire toolkit or knowing your rotation correctly, and it's the truth, then you have two easy options: 1) Take that as a sign to improve or 2) Don't and I shall continue to keep calling you bad at a job that you've capped to level 70 when, by all means, you should have a basic competency to play that job at level 70.

Bad is not an insult towards anyone unless it's untrue, and if it is untrue, then suck it up buttercup and move on with your day.

This isn't hard to understand, this is a basic adjective used to describe a person's skillset. Whether it's an online game or not should and frankly, does not matter in this scenario. People in competitive sports like football, basketball, etc get called a "bad player" all of the time, it's not a form of harassment!

If someone said you were bad at gardening and it's the truth, do you file a cease and desist order with your local precinct for public harassment? I swear, overly sensitive people find "harassment" in the most basic of things that I think we need a customer service hotline to explain what qualifies and what doesn't qualify as harassment because people cry foul so many times that the word itself is losing it's entire meaning.

[Gallus]

If you're bad at your job and I call you bad for not using your entire toolkit or knowing your rotation correctly, and it's the truth, then you have two easy options: 1) Take that as a sign to improve or 2) Don't and I shall continue to keep calling you bad at a job that you've capped to level 70 when, by all means, you should have a basic competency to play that job at level 70.

And how does one demonstrate that they've listened to your advice? Say someone's not properly doing their rotation, but your suggestion involves changes in a way the underperformer must reorganize their binds and change the order of the buttons they have been pressing in their rotation. They've taken your advice, but they are unable to put it in practice because they need some time to assimilate your suggested changes or rebind their skills/spells. Do you keep calling them bad here too?

[Ilan]

And how does one demonstrate that they've listened to your advice? Say someone's not properly doing their rotation, but your suggestion involves changes in a way the underperformer must reorganize their binds and change the order of the buttons they have been pressing in their rotation. They've taken your advice, but they are unable to put it in practice because they need some time to assimilate your suggested changes or rebind their skills/spells. Do you keep calling them bad here too?

Oh dear god. Could you please stop to find another excuse every time someone writes something? If someone really picks up the tips during the dungeon you can see that if you know the class this person is playing. Its not even always a rotation thing, its also dodging, use of buffs and so on. There is A lot what you can easily see if you open your eyes.

[Sigma-Astra]

And how does one demonstrate that they've listened to your advice? Say someone's not properly doing their rotation, but your suggestion involves changes in a way the underperformer must reorganize their binds and change the order of the buttons they have been pressing in their rotation. They've taken your advice, but they are unable to put it in practice because they need some time to assimilate your suggested changes or rebind their skills/spells. Do you keep calling them bad here too?

Uh yes, until they're actually competent. If you don't want people calling you bad, then you improve. It's simple and not rocket science as you keep making it out to be.

Enough of the same tired excuses. Do you constantly make excuses for why you get a failing grade? No, you strive to turn that F into a B or A at the very least. There are no excuses for lack of skills or incompetency other than you holding yourself back from doing better.

If the human race didn't learn to improve upon failings or things that we ourselves were lacking on, than we'd still be stuck living in caves.

Why do you need to keep making excuse after excuse for why someone can't improve? If you're trying to hold someone back from improving when you know that they can do so, you are part of the problem then.

[Daibunnie]

And how does one demonstrate that they've listened to your advice? Say someone's not properly doing their rotation, but your suggestion involves changes in a way the underperformer must reorganize their binds and change the order of the buttons they have been pressing in their rotation. They've taken your advice, but they are unable to put it in practice because they need some time to assimilate your suggested changes or rebind their skills/spells. Do you keep calling them bad here too?

Yes you keep calling them bad until they've proven otherwise. Most of the time, you reorganizing your binds/hotbars/skills so you can easily find them on the screen, not for your rotation. If you need to practice, then you should do so on the several training dummies each citystate has. All of these seem like a bunch of excuses on why someone should get carried rather than learning whatever they need.

[Penthea]

Yes you keep calling them bad until they've proven otherwise. Most of the time, you reorganizing your binds/hotbars/skills so you can easily find them on the screen, not for your rotation. If you need to practice, then you should do so on the several training dummies each citystate has. All of these seem like a bunch of excuses on why someone should get carried rather than learning whatever they need.

I think that player is referring to someone being told mid-instance to change something about their rotation and they might find it difficult to because their keybinds are not set up optimally for it. The player obviously hasn't the time to fiddle with their ui a lot if they're already in the act of doing content. Never mind that so much about getting dps to be decent is having trained muscle memory. Unless the change is tiny the player won't transcend into new muscle memory very smoothly mid-instance.

[Daibunnie]

I think that player is referring to someone being told mid-instance to change something about their rotation and they might find it difficult to because their keybinds are not set up optimally for it. The player obviously hasn't the time to fiddle with their ui a lot if they're already in the act of doing content. Never mind that so much about getting dps to be decent is having trained muscle memory. Unless the change is tiny the player won't transcend into new muscle memory very smoothly mid-instance.

In that instance, why shouldn't the remaining players in the party just kick that player if they can't adapt? I really doubt people would actually accept an ice mage, 90% aggro tank, or a cure 1 only whm.

[Penthea]

In that instance, why shouldn't the remaining players in the party just kick that player if they can't adapt? I really doubt people would actually accept an ice mage, 90% aggro tank, or a cure 1 only whm.

I didn't debate whether the player should be kicked or not, and this isn't the argument you were having. You were stating people should go and practise in their own time and I explained that in a situation in which you're told to do something mid-instance you don't have the luxury of practising before being expected to show noticeably better results.

[Daibunnie]

I didn't debate whether the player should be kicked or not, and this isn't the argument you were having. You were stating people should go and practise in their own time and I explained that in a situation in which you're told to do something mid-instance you don't have the luxury of practising before being expected to show noticeably better results.

And I'm asking you why should the remaining players put up with someone who can't adapt mid-instance especially when their performance/dps is subpar. If you can't play properly while in any instance and can't change your rotation after your party had given you advice, you should get kicked.