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  1. #1341
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    Hazel Meade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanos View Post
    Problem that I ran into is that you take so much time to put together a party to grind and then next thing you know 50% of your party has no idea how to play and what abilities they have and you have to oust them.. now youre back to the start trying to put together a grind party again.

    Like the other day 2 of the L50 mages I had in a spiritbond party had no idea wtf stoneskin is and they even admitted it "ya i power leveled to 50 and didnt pay attention to the abilities I learned AND THEN you got noobs who are wearing completely wrong gear for their job and refuse to listen to you...

    and omg their gear... i thought they were just wearing that low level stuff to bond... but when I asked.. it was their actual gear..

    /facepalm
    Hihi Thanos, this is really Yelta posting from work :P

    I agree with everything Thanos says here... And I agreed before I realized who he was.

    PL should not be faster XP than getting a good group together to XP. Ideally you should be learning your role in party play. Now I agree, a bad player that was PL is still a bad Player if they level in a group, but I think a good player who leveled in a group is a better player than if they were AFK PL'ed. A good player can be taught at 50 how to do their job and what gear to wear, but if they actually participated in their XP gain they should already know this.

    I will be a hypocrite here, I had to level glad to 36 and I admit I got a PL. I had no interest in glad and was told that I was REQUIRED to have sentinel for Ifrit. * But this is an entirely different problem *
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    Last edited by Pyretta_Blaze; 12-14-2011 at 04:21 AM.

  2. #1342
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    Thanos Xiv
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze View Post
    Hihi Thanos, this is really Yelta posting from work :P

    I agree with everything Thanos says here... And I agreed before I realized who he was.

    PL should not be faster XP than getting a good group together to XP. Ideally you should be learning your role in party play. Now I agree, a bad player that was PL is still a bad Player if they level in a group, but I think a good player who leveled in a group is a better player than if they were AFK PL'ed. A good player can be taught at 50 how to do their job and what gear to wear, but if they actually participated in their XP gain they should already know this.

    I will be a hypocrite here, I had to level glad to 36 and I admit I got a PL. I had no interest in glad and was told that I was REQUIRED to have sentinel for Ifrit. * But this is an entirely different problem *
    Excuse me?!!? GET BACK TO WORK NOW!

    P.S I am at work too =)
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  3. #1343
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    Soco Loco
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    Dear SE, please close/delete this thread. thx
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  4. #1344
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soco View Post
    Dear SE, please close/delete this thread. thx
    dear se, please fix this issue then close/delete this thread. thx
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  5. #1345
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    Dubont Matteus
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    dear se, please fix this issue then close/delete this thread. thx
    Dear SE, I see no issue that needs fixing.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

  6. #1346
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    Firon's Avatar
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    Firon Veleth
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    If people wanna PL let them do it, I for one don't care. If you are so afraid of playing with ppl you might think they don't know how to play their class don't team up with randoms.
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  7. #1347
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    If people wanna PL let them do it, I for one don't care. If you are so afraid of playing with ppl you might think they don't know how to play their class don't team up with randoms.
    you are so wise. why didnt we think of that?!?
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  8. #1348
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    Major problems:

    A - It reduces the number of people willing to make regular parties, frustrating those who wanted to do so. This is specially bad for new players, because they won't find people to party with and neither will find people willing to PL them so easily. End result: They will leave the game, unless they're solo enthusiats.

    B - It makes people reach the cap way too fast, and these people will consume all the content way too quickly. This wouldn't be so bad if SE could keep up with introducing new content, but at least at this point in time it is pretty much impossible without delaying the other major fixes the game needs. You know what happens when people have no content to do? They get bored, and once again, at least a few of those will likely leave the game as well

    C - Lower level content and gear becomes useless and outdated quickly, adding even more frustration to the lower level players that can't / don't want to PL.
    1.0 is for hardcore players at this point. I feel there really isn't enough casual content to draw players who want to take their time and enjoy the game world, which is mostly who would benefit from a slower paced leveling system, anyway. The effort to put in content of that caliber is entirely directed at 2.0. All I'm seeing for 1.0 is content directed at keeping level 50 classes occupied for the next year.

    Hardcore players just want to skip the lower level content anyway to get to the endgame gear, so in that light, why not let them? They won't leave because they got level 50 too easy, that's for sure. Even while many hardcore players complain that leveling is too fast, they're the ones leading the charge in powerleveling parties, getting all their linkshell buddies maxed out to their heart's content. There won't be many casual players left to lord over your rank 50 "accomplishment" until a glut of level 1 PS3 players emerge. And there's only a limited time to get at some of the treasures that will only be offered until 2.0 comes out.

    So why not just enjoy the fast track to endgame for what it is?
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    (original by GalvatronZero)

  9. #1349
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    If people wanna PL let them do it, I for one don't care. If you are so afraid of playing with ppl you might think they don't know how to play their class don't team up with randoms.
    sarcasm ?
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  10. #1350
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    Dear SE, I see no issue that needs fixing.
    the doctor called. your eye exam is scheduled next week to cure your blindness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shneibel View Post
    sarcasm ?
    nah not sarcasm it's ignorance.
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    Last edited by darkstarpoet1; 12-14-2011 at 06:02 AM.


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