A little scared of the future

[Sylvina]

If theres not a decent way to catch up in item level you end up with a mass exodus and no new players.

[van_arn]

If theres not a decent way to catch up in item level you end up with a mass exodus and no new players.

The MSQ itself is the problem for new players at this point. You need to clear 400+ boring-ass fetch quests to begin to matter, and that's going to cause the exodus.

Not difficulty.

[Sylvina]

The MSQ itself is the problem for new players at this point. You need to clear 400+ boring-ass fetch quests to begin to matter, and that's going to cause the exodus.

Not difficulty.

The only boring part of the MSQ is the part between ARR and HW.

[HyoMinPark]

The only boring part of the MSQ is the part between ARR and HW.

Beginning of ARR is really slow, too. ARR itself doesn’t really pick up until near Garuda. Ifrit’s storyline is kind of okay, but the Company of Heroes quest chain is literally nothing but filler and fetching.

[van_arn]

The only boring part of the MSQ is the part between ARR and HW.

I'm mulling over this sentence, and the further I get I'm more and more impressed with just how wrong it is.

I remember entire chapters of bad anime filler episodes, like helping the turtles do whatever, a cheesy billion-part fisherman chain, the gobbie cheese nonsense leading up to Titan, the abysmal post-arr content, Tsukiyomi stomping on things just to make sure we know she's a villain, Lyse's truly exceptional uselessness, Ascians plotting for... whatever villains plot for, talking to one npc right next to another NPC, teleporting across the world to talk to an npc only to teleport across the world again to talk to another NPC, very dull "find the pixel" telescope quests, find the <number of> sparkles in the <designated area>, minion assets used to make a budget version of the Triad, "walk 200 meters and kill 3 beetles" quests, and -- lest we forget -- PLEASE RETURN TO THE WAKING SANDS.

The kicker? Every single new player gets to experience ALL of this HUNDREDS of times over before they get into any content that requires two brain cells to rub together.

MSQ is a garbage requirement for new players. Half as long would still be too long.

Oh, let's not forget you're the chosen hero because you picked a crystal up off of the ground. Don't litter, kids!

[ko_]

I'm mulling over this sentence, and the further I get I'm more and more impressed with just how wrong it is.

I remember entire chapters of bad anime filler episodes, like helping the turtles do whatever, a cheesy billion-part fisherman chain, the gobbie cheese nonsense leading up to Titan, the abysmal post-arr content, Tsukiyomi stomping on things just to make sure we know she's a villain, Lyse's truly exceptional uselessness, Ascians plotting for... whatever villains plot for, talking to one npc right next to another NPC, teleporting across the world to talk to an npc only to teleport across the world again to talk to another NPC, very dull "find the pixel" telescope quests, find the <number of> sparkles in the <designated area>, minion assets used to make a budget version of the Triad, "walk 200 meters and kill 3 beetles" quests, and -- lest we forget -- PLEASE RETURN TO THE WAKING SANDS.

The kicker? Every single new player gets to experience ALL of this HUNDREDS of times over before they get into any content that requires two brain cells to rub together.

MSQ is a garbage requirement for new players. Half as long would still be too long.

Oh, let's not forget you're the chosen hero because you picked a crystal up off of the ground. Don't litter, kids!

That's all up to the player tho if it's good or not. I just think it's all anime since it is. I only liked the later SB plots to be honest. On the whole wol thing... to be fair, there's not alot of ways to explain why you're choosen and why all the other players aren't. So I'm not gonna give them flake on that part.

[van_arn]

That's all up to the player tho if it's good or not. I just think it's all anime since it is. I only liked the later SB plots to be honest. On the whole wol thing... to be fair, there's not alot of ways to explain why you're choosen and why all the other players aren't. So I'm not gonna give them flake on that part.

I don't disagree, but the people that absolutely hate questing can't just jump in and find something worth playing in a reasonable amount of time. Those hundreds (emphasis, hundreds) of fedex quests are required, or you pay to skip some of them and then you "only" have a couple hundred left.

Literally this night I had a sprout log in all excited they cleared Praetorium last night thinking they can now unlock Machinist, and I had to give them the whole "Oh sweet summer child" speech about 2.x. I don't even remember how many times I've had to give this speech now.

[ko_]

I don't disagree, but the people that absolutely hate questing can't just jump in and play. Those hundreds (emphasis, hundreds) of fedex quests are required, or you pay to skip some of them and then you "only" have a couple hundred.

Literally this night I had a sprout log in all excited they cleared Praetorium last night thinking they can now unlock Machinist, and I had to give them the whole "Oh sweet summer child" speech about post-2.0.

lol. poor thing. His world must have been crushed. Did you atleast give them an icecream cone?

[ShinShimon]

I don't disagree, but the people that absolutely hate questing

...are playing the wrong game. The story is the main selling point of FFXIV over its competitors. They could trim some of the more pointless ARR and 2.X quests, but if you cut out the actual story, this is just a prettier version of WoW.

[SenorPatty]

I don't disagree, but the people that absolutely hate questing can't just jump in and find something worth playing in a reasonable amount of time. Those hundreds (emphasis, hundreds) of fedex quests are required, or you pay to skip some of them and then you "only" have a couple hundred left.

Literally this night I had a sprout log in all excited they cleared Praetorium last night thinking they can now unlock Machinist, and I had to give them the whole "Oh sweet summer child" speech about 2.x. I don't even remember how many times I've had to give this speech now.

Oh man, I laughed harder than I should have.


BTW, about the waking sands, you forgot to add "ANON"

If I have to see that word ONE MORE GODDAMN TIME, I'll find a way for my character to convert to an Ascian. Someway, somehow.