A little scared of the future

[ko_]

I'm still not high fiving SE yet.. cause I still believe it's just gear. I don't think mist dragon is anything speical at all. Once people get gear this dungeon like all the other ones wil be a joke and people will be bored again. Yes I'm jaded but for right now I see no reason not to be. This is why I'm waiting. I won't high five SE unless it still kills you and is just as hard once we're full 409 or whatever. Until then I'm withholding my judgement. With that being said, I've seen people die to some insane shit in this game. I seen a wipe on floor ONE in deep dungeon.. yes floor ONE! I seen a group wipe 3 times in the first dungeon. Yes. This happened. So I dunno. I get that alot of people think this game is piss poor easy, but I seen both sides and I think it's in a fine place. What we really should be asking is NOT for harder dungeons cause it isn't happening. We need to stop GEAR creep. THAT I believe is the issue. Stop that.. you stop baby mode.

[Fhaerron]

I'm still not high fiving SE yet.. cause I still believe it's just gear. I don't think mist dragon is anything speical at all. Once people get gear this dungeon like all the other ones wil be a joke and people will be bored again. Yes I'm jaded but for right now I see no reason not to be. This is why I'm waiting. I won't high five SE unless it still kills you and is just as hard once we're full 409 or whatever. Until then I'm withholding my judgement. With that being said, I've seen people die to some insane shit in this game. I seen a wipe on floor ONE in deep dungeon.. yes floor ONE! I seen a group wipe 3 times in the first dungeon. Yes. This happened. So I dunno. I get that alot of people think this game is piss poor easy, but I seen both sides and I think it's in a fine place. What we really should be asking is NOT for harder dungeons cause it isn't happening. We need to stop GEAR creep. THAT I believe is the issue. Stop that.. you stop baby mode.

How about boss mechanics deal damage in % instead of flat out damage.

So that you loose say 80% from a certain hit at lvl 70 but still loose 80% at lvl 80 for example. And a higher sync rate so you can't face roll it with higher Ilvl?

[Sylvina]

How about boss mechanics deal damage in % instead of flat out damage.

So that you loose say 80% from a certain hit at lvl 70 but still loose 80% at lvl 80 for example. And a higher sync rate so you can't face roll it with higher Ilvl?

Gear exists for a reason, including "Better" and higher item level gear. If they did that, why have item levels at all? why not just use one set of gear forever? People are SUPPOSED to out gear content eventually.

[ko_]

Gear exists for a reason, including "Better" and higher item level gear. If they did that, why have item levels at all? why not just use one set of gear forever? People are SUPPOSED to out gear content eventually.

Yes this is true.. but the issue I think we have is we're getting into NEW content already overpowered. There's no reason a dungeon should give useless gear that's 40 points BELOW what we are currently wearing if you even casually play this game. We get spoiled with gear too fast. THAT is why this game is piss poor easy I believe. Or atleast it's a huge reason why. Why are we getting 355 gear when the normal player is like 360 atleast?

[Lumadurin]

There's no reason a dungeon should give useless gear that's 40 points BELOW what we are currently wearing if you even casually play this game.

I'm just gonna chime in and say this is usually done in consideration for new players who are currently leveling so that they can progress in ilvl slightly. Or people who have been unsubbed for extended periods of time.
At 50/60, and eventually 70 in 5.0, players will likely be equiping some of this gear as they go along unless they have a friend who can sugar-daddy them with HQ crafted equipment. Because it's unlikely they'll have a backlog of 2k+ Poetics to get a full set of enhanced Ironworks/Shire/soon-to-be-Rakshasa gear. They also won't have access to anything better (short of buying HQ [X]4 or higher off the marketboard) until they reach the next expansion pack and start getting gear from vendors/the MSQ.
Dungeon gear has never been for people who were BiS/tome-geared in the recent raid tier if I recall correctly.

That aside, itemization and power progression in XIV is objectively bad, yes.

[ko_]

I'm just gonna chime in and say this is usually done in consideration for new players who are currently leveling so that they can progress in ilvl slightly. Or people who have been unsubbed for extended periods of time.
At 50/60, and eventually 70 in 5.0, players will likely be equiping some of this gear as they go along unless they have a friend who can sugar-daddy them with HQ crafted equipment. Because it's unlikely they'll have a backlog of 2k+ Poetics to get a full set of enhanced Ironworks/Shire/soon-to-be-Rakshasa gear. They also won't have access to anything better (short of buying HQ [X]4 or higher off the marketboard) until they reach the next expansion pack and start getting gear from vendors/the MSQ.
Dungeon gear has never been for people who were BiS/tome-geared in the recent raid tier if I recall correctly.

That aside, itemization and power progression in XIV is objectively bad, yes.

That's the problem right there. Stop catering to people who leave your game.. yes I said it. DON'T DO IT.. cause it literally gives us the worst power creep in the game. We'll barely get content with teeth if they keep doing this.