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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
    A spear tank would mostly be spear&shield and can't reuse the animations and weapons from LNC, so it would take more work.
    Based on what ? The tank that's Axe & Shield ? Or Longsword and Shield ?
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I know low levels get easily ignored, but GLA still needs to function at below level 30, so you can't just lump every tanking related skill onto PLD.
    Basically, my suggestion simply swaps Flash for Total Eclipse, and give Shield "Stance" much sooner than now, boosting enmity of every action and offering higher mitigation. This would easily compensate for losing the only tanking skills GLA natively has below lvl 30, which is Flash and the enmity boost on Savage and RoH (Especially since you'd only have RoH for Haukke Manor before being PLD and having the enmity bonus again).
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    And even then, bringing up the gear issues again, they wouldn't use GLA/PLD armor, they wouldn't use the same weapons and shields as GLA/PLD, so why base it off of GLA/PLD?
    They would still use sword and shield, so you wouldn't even have to create new types of weapon, simply flagging them off GLA/PLD. After all, you already have shields and swords that GLA can't equip (Even PLD for some shields), it's not really a problem.
    And for armor, you just add this new DPS to DRG gear, just a flag again. And you'd still use the same basic rotation, meaning you wouldn't start this new job completely blind.
    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Yes, exactly. That's my point.
    That's technically also my point. Putting them on a separate set instead of simply giving them to all classes would be a great way to offer more job opportunities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Based on what ? The tank that's Axe & Shield ? Or Longsword and Shield ?
    Neither nor.
    Roman Legions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
    Neither nor. Roman Legions
    Roman legions didn't have tanks, healers and DPS
    Quote Originally Posted by Legion88 View Post
    even if i think that a basic tank stance for the classes should be available via the role skills.
    The issue with this is that all tank stances would be exactly the same, which would only make them bland. My personal gripe against Dark Knight is that Grit is just another name for Shield Oath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Roman legions didn't have tanks, healers and DPS
    The same could be sayed for every source of inspiration in the real world and even for most fantasy worlds
    I have to correct myself, but i will do this in another post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    The issue with this is that all tank stances would be exactly the same, which would only make them bland. My personal gripe against Dark Knight is that Grit is just another name for Shield Oath.
    But this would only be for the classes, jobs could get their own unique tank stances, maybe even a more powerfull variant.
    Edit:
    Also it is more important how the stance works with the tool kit and PLD and DRK have their stances like independent skills with no real interaction with the toll kit.
    The stances on every tank can all be the same as long as the interaction with the tool kit sets them appart from each other.
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    Last edited by Legion88; 10-04-2018 at 07:16 PM.