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  1. #61
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcake28 View Post
    Just ask around thy will tell u i cant remember thm all but we was talking abt it
    I am asking around. I'm asking you. What's the source of this information?
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    I don't think you guys remember the weapon damage imbalance that Bard had in ARR. It had to be rebalanced because it was too good compared to every other class. In the case of Scouting versus Healing gear Scouting would give Dancer more HP to work with, meaning they'd be able to boost their healing potency even further than the other two healers by skipping VIT melds, which matters a ton for world first. They also wouldn't have access to Piety outside of melding, but would get access to Direct Hit, a damage stat that neither of the two other healers would be able to replicate. It's not a good idea. They have to be in Mind gear because of those reasons. No exceptions.

    Polearms are a weapon that the Ivalice Dancers have been able to use in the past. Given Ivalice has appeared in this game and the speculation about going to Rabanastre in the next expansion, it is possible as a weapon type. It's also Blunt Damage which if Dancer were to be melee dps oriented, whether as a healer or DPS class, would introduce another piercing situation with Monk. So that's a reason it might not happen.
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    Petition Thread for "Playable Loporrits": https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436512-Make-them-Playable-You-Cowards
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    Mechanics are Aesthetics. Graphics don't make interesting gameplay.

  3. #63
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
    Scouting versus Healing gear Scouting would give Dancer more HP to work with, meaning they'd be able to boost their healing potency even further than the other two healers by skipping VIT melds, which matters a ton for world first.
    World first balance only matters for about three weeks out of every two years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimoire-M View Post
    They also wouldn't have access to Piety outside of melding, but would get access to Direct Hit, a damage stat that neither of the two other healers would be able to replicate. It's not a good idea. They have to be in Mind gear because of those reasons. No exceptions.
    There can always be exceptions. Code can be rewritten to make exceptions work. The code hasn't been chiseled onto marble tablets, much as some people here seem to think it has.
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  4. #64
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    Don't believe me thn till thy add it thn i'll say in your face cant say anymore gl to u all =^_-=
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    Last edited by Starcake28; 09-30-2018 at 06:30 PM.

  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    World first balance only matters for about three weeks out of every two years.


    There can always be exceptions. Code can be rewritten to make exceptions work. The code hasn't been chiseled onto marble tablets, much as some people here seem to think it has.
    Sure there could be a workaround, an incredibly convoluted workaround that they're never going to do because it would be far, far simpler to implement a healer that uses healer gear.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Sure there could be a workaround, an incredibly convoluted workaround that they're never going to do because it would be far, far simpler to implement a healer that uses healer gear.
    This. Especially given how lopsided this game is when it comes to class balance. Don't make SE's job harder than it needs to be.
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    Petition Thread for "Playable Loporrits": https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/436512-Make-them-Playable-You-Cowards
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    Mechanics are Aesthetics. Graphics don't make interesting gameplay.

  7. #67
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    @ Starcake, i do not think people are trying to argue with you but just pointing out that just because players on your server are talking about Blu (most likely because they want it in game) does not make it so.
    SE has not revealed or confirmed any jobs for 5.0 yet. Many had been talking about Dancer before Stormblood launch and alas we did not get it.
    I have a friend that works at SE and he has been tight lip about it.
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    they can barley balance drk into the tank roles, dunno if a 4th tank is a good idea atm, unless they revamp drk (giving it a better tank identity)
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    they can barley balance drk into the tank roles, dunno if a 4th tank is a good idea atm, unless they revamp drk (giving it a better tank identity)
    The Devs stated that DRK is undergoing some major changes so we'll either see some big adjustments or a complete rework, probably ready for the next expac. We won't really know whether it's balanced or not till it goes live, but eitherway with every new expac many jobs are patched several times afterwards so balance is a never ending project.
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  10. #70
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    Blue mage was hinted more thn dancer ppl ask for dancer after ppl was asking for blue mage if i had to pick a class tht would bring more players i would pick blue mage because everyone lvled it in final fantasy 11 there wasn't alot of ppl playing dancer thy just sub it because it get boring fast as hell blue mage bring more to the table and its more fun but ppl tht Didn't understand blue mage just gave up because thy Didn't like to farm and Tht's wat Final fantasy is a farming game it makes me laugh whn ppl try so hard to say things thy don't really know like this blue mage overpowered i say its not because u die just like every other class if u don't know wat u doing same with farming blue mage spells if u don't know wat u doing u will be farming tht same spell forever on tht note GL to u all again =^_-=
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    Last edited by Starcake28; 10-09-2018 at 08:03 PM.

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