Improve Adventurer In Need Bonus :D

[Ilyrian]

I'd rather usher in a new era of chaos by having roulettes push you onto a random class you've leveled. All hail the age of dark.

That would be chaos, true... but at least it's an original idea.

[rachcouture]

I certainly wouldn't mind more compensation for the abuse and negligence I have to put up with as a healer or tank.

[Gemina]

I'm not going to say no to additional AiN bonuses. However, the only players that are going to benefit from these rewards are the tanks and healers already queuing for roulettes. It isn't going to shorten the queue times for DPS players because the rewards won't increase the number of tanks and healers in the pool. The tanks and healers we currently have in roulettes are those who truly love playing those roles, and they don't really queue up for the sole purpose of the AiN bonus. It's just a nice cherry for doing what we love to do.

The innate responsibilities of tanks and healers is what turns people away from them. So in order to get more people to play them, they have to be made interesting and fun enough to get players to leave their comfort zones and give these roles a go. We are into the evening hours of the expansion now so I would imagine nothing too major will be implemented that would impact queue times over the long run. We shall see what the dev team does in the future.

[Hyperia]

A better solution is to increase the number of DPS slots in a dungeon. I would have the number of DPS slots represent the statistical amount of DPS players which is around 60%~ to the healers and tanks. So a total of 3 to 4 DPS per group would help the queues dramatically.

If you are wanting people to stay on their Tanks or Healers though, make the AIN bonus an untradeable EXP crystal. Then I could click the crystal on the desired job and the dungeon bonus EXP would be given to that job. Do that and I'll tank dungeons all the time!

[Arrius]

A better solution is to increase the number of DPS slots in a dungeon. I would have the number of DPS slots represent the statistical amount of DPS players which is around 60%~ to the healers and tanks. So a total of 3 to 4 DPS per group would help the queues dramatically.

That would never happen. This means basically redesigning every single light party duty -dungeons, 4-man trials and guildhests- for this, and even remake many mechanics to accommodate the change. Not to mention the issue with the dungeon size being rather cramped with 5 people in smaller rooms, especially in the ones with bosses in them.

And that is something they probably aren't willing to put effort in.

[Ilyrian]

That would never happen. This means basically redesigning every single light party duty -dungeons, 4-man trials and guildhests- for this, and even remake many mechanics to accommodate the change. Not to mention the issue with the dungeon size being rather cramped with 5 people in smaller rooms, especially in the ones with bosses in them.

And that is something they probably aren't willing to put effort in.

It still seems odd to me that they didn't go with the 1/1/3 model - like the groups still feel empty in dungeons to me.
I'm still very much of the belief that a RDM could heal most of the casual content we have currently, a healer just seems like a safety net for new players leveling.
If they did make groups with 3 DPS I reckon it would actually increase the people wanting to play healers - make the play style more frenetic in the lower level content: make healing a vital part of the group.
Probs won't happen though. I do think more people should give healing/tanking a go though - I think this game is a very good entry point the roles.

Edit - also don't forget the AiN bonus for leveling - Cracked Cluster - is basically a big pot of Gil currently, depending on your server's market.
That should be incentive enough to just have a tank or healer job leveled just to run it once a day.

[Gemina]

A better solution is to increase the number of DPS slots in a dungeon. I would have the number of DPS slots represent the statistical amount of DPS players which is around 60%~ to the healers and tanks. So a total of 3 to 4 DPS per group would help the queues dramatically.

If you are wanting people to stay on their Tanks or Healers though, make the AIN bonus an untradeable EXP crystal. Then I could click the crystal on the desired job and the dungeon bonus EXP would be given to that job. Do that and I'll tank dungeons all the time!

The problem with this is every single dungeon in the game would have to be retuned to accommodate the additional DPS slot(s). That is a TON of work done to existing content. Even if they went through all that trouble, the improvement to DPS queue times wouldn't be drastic, but actually marginal at best, and the opposite effect where queue times for DPS actually worsen is entirely plausible from such a change.

I would wager that there would be little to no improvement because the number of players queueing up as DPS would also very likely increase. This is because the additional slot would take DPS players currently seeking out alternate methods of exp gain to immediately drop it and queue. It also incentivizes the role for those who currently don't play DPS jobs.

That exp crystal you mention is like a giant, glowy, delicious low hanging fruit offered by the serpent lol. This would absolutely work, but there is no way devs will allow one job to accumulate exp for another... again ;p

[Iscah]

That's just for doing leveling roulette as an adventurer-in-need. OP specifically suggested adding it to every roulette.

Maybe it's not in every roulette, but I'm pretty sure I've been racking up cracked clusters from Alliance Raids' frequent "DPS in need" requests.

EDIT/CORRECTION: Alliance Raids give 2 x Mhachi Matter, not cracked clusters.

[Liam_Harper]

WoW tried this.

What is does is create a ping-pong situation where if the Adventurer in Need bonus isn't up, tanks literally don't bother queuing full stop and dps queue are in limbo until the bonus assignment is refreshed. Then suddenly everyone with a tank spec jumps into the queue all at once and tank queues are now 40 minutes. Rinse and repeat.

It also encouraged every dps who's barely tanked in their life or learned their class to say "heck, why not, can't turn that down!" and jump into a dungeon completely unprepared. It made for some messy runs.

The only thing that would legitimatelly encourage more tanks is better community attitude. By all means, kick the guy who's in dps stance on trash while using no cd's or aoe and ignoring the group and hurling abuse if you give friendly pointers... but don't immediately assume the guy who made a single mistake or two but genuinely wants to do his best for the group is a brain dead moron and hurl abuse at him instantly, start pressuring him and pulling half the dungeon. That just results in removing a perfectly decent tank from future queues and adding another dps to the pile.

[Ameela]

It still seems odd to me that they didn't go with the 1/1/3 model - like the groups still feel empty in dungeons to me.

It's probably because a party in most of the old FF games consists of 4 people, just be glad we don't have 3-man parties for dungeons like what some of the games after VII tried to push ;p