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  1. #211
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    Fyce's Avatar
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuuroYuuki View Post
    you cant report ppl because he cant play properly. OP cant play tank properly not because he want to insult the rest of party,he just dont understand how to tank.
    there is no reason to ban OP if they report to GM anyway.

    what will GM say if ppl who cant play properly in GM jail if that thing is reportable? "Sorry you are banned for 7 days because you are not git gut"?(joke aside)
    You absolutly can report people if you have a strong reason to believe that they are playing in a way that is disruptive on purpose. Not using key abilities, stealing aggro, moving the boss all the time resulting in the party getting killed over and over again, and also refusing to communicate are all signs of your party being trolled. Especially in a Lv.70 8-raid environment where basic MMO etiquette is welcome.
    It will be up to the Game Master to decide if that behavior was intentional, but if that player gets reported multiple times on a regular basis, there's a good chance for them to be given a warning/ban at some point.

    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    Okay that's a bit a extreme? this wasn't intended to get this much attention, yeah i definitely am considering changing my name after this, at this point i really don't care anymore.
    You started a thread craving for attention. You got what you asked for.
    If you are not happy that people got back to that episode 6 months ago about you showing how bad you were (already craving for attention back then, and also hiding the full story), that people from the other viewpoint came to share their experience with you like you did, or that people are fed up with your attitude when it comes to receiving advice on how to play, then don't start a thread.

    In short, don't create a thread to get people's attention if you only want to cherry pick what kind of attention you get.
    So next time, just report if you think it's justified, and move on. No need to come to the forums.
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  2. #212
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    Ilan's Avatar
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    I don't have to provide anything else other than i posted, i was kicked 1 Run of it 1 wipe, also wanna mention i was doing everything right, now that i think about it probably was a group of trolls, also i was upset because they sent that message as soon as they kicked me before i could say anything back, Another example of abuse of the kick system. also i don't need any teaching, I Have over 250 comms.
    Sorry its not an abuse of the kick system because your playstyle obviously differed from theirs. Also commendations don't say anything about if you are good or bad as a player.
    Did they have to write something like this? No. Did you maybe provoke it if you wrote something like "i don't need any teaching cause i have over 250 comms."? Most likely.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  3. #213
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    xMysticx's Avatar
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    Mystic Lord
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyce View Post
    You absolutly can report people if you have a strong reason to believe that they are playing in a way that is disruptive on purpose. Not using key abilities, stealing aggro, moving the boss all the time resulting in the party getting killed over and over again, and also refusing to communicate are all signs of your party being trolled. Especially in a Lv.70 8-raid environment where basic MMO etiquette is welcome.
    It will be up to the Game Master to decide if that behavior was intentional, but if that player gets reported multiple times on a regular basis, there's a good chance for them to be given a warning/ban at some point.

    You started a thread craving for attention. You got what you asked for.
    If you are not happy that people got back to that episode 6 months ago about you showing how bad you were (already craving for attention back then, and also hiding the full story), that people from the other viewpoint came to share their experience with you like you did, or that people are fed up with your attitude when it comes to receiving advice on how to play, then don't start a thread.

    In short, don't create a thread to get people's attention if you only want to cherry pick what kind of attention you get.
    So next time, just report if you think it's justified, and move on. No need to come obsessed to the forums.
    if Making a reddit post is any better drawing more attention it's like all of you are obsessed with me, and to be fair i'm not too happy about my name not being blured, at least i was kind of enough to blur the persons name when they sent the message, after taking a day off the forums and also researching info about my class etc, all i ask now is to just let this thread die off there's not point to continueing it.
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    Last edited by xMysticx; 09-29-2018 at 03:20 AM.

  4. #214
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    Wonder Noblesse
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    People are very sensitive these days. Honestly you're better off letting it slide off or at least have some fun with it. People in a run don't like me? I spam emotes, especially the ones I made using macros, and leave them to their fate It's been a while since I've had drama in a dungeon/raid though, except in Heaven on High a while back because I didn't feel like chasing silver chests and made a post about it. People just play different is all.
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  5. #215
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcurrant18 View Post
    People are very sensitive these days. Honestly you're better off letting it slide off or at least have some fun with it. People in a run don't like me? I spam emotes, especially the ones I made using macros, and leave them to their fate It's been a while since I've had drama in a dungeon/raid though, except in Heaven on High a while back because I didn't feel like chasing silver chests and made a post about it. People just play different is all.
    There is a difference between "people playing different" and "people playing in a way that prevents the rest of the party to clear the content in question".

    I suppose you're trying to be nice to the OP here and I agree with letting that insult slide (or just reporting it silently) being not to bad of an advice, seeing how this got blown out of proportion a bit, but the subtext of "Just do what you want and dont care what people say" is really bad advice, specially in this case.
    I dont know if you went through the whole thread, but you basically just told someone who was offtanking, yet in tankstance and spamming their aggro-combo, stealing the boss from the actual maintank, then proceded to place the boss in a manner that turned 90% of the arena into "the floor is actual lava that will kill you" instead of only about 50% and consequently caused a wipe - while also not responding to anything his party said to him... and you told that someone that its okay to just play differently.

    People did not "didnt like him", because he was playing a Roegadyn or because of his glamour, but because of his actions which were directly harmful to the success of their run. His actions already appear as griefing and harrassing - add silly emote-spam to it, and I can only hope the GMs will see it the same way. That party would have been better off if he left them to their fate, because that fate could have easly been: Get a tank in who knows basic gameplay at level 70 and clear the raid.

    If people in a run didnt like me, my first thought would be "Okay, what could be the reason for that?" and only after I have definitly established that the fault doesnt lie with me - if anything, by asking my party if they'd like me to change anything about the way I'm handling stuff right now - I'll conclude that they are a bunch of jerks who can look for a new tank/healer now.
    Dont get on a high horse before you've figured out if you actually belong there - making fun of people who are legit upset about you because you're the one whos wiping them or making them all work an awful lot harder is the absolute worst thing to do in such a situation, because it shows that you lack one fundamental skill thats required for any group-content: team-work.

    A paladin opener can vary between starting off with casting Holy Spirit - or with your actual offtank-melee-combo and you applying your DoT. You can also play differently in terms of actual skill in the sense of how well you manage to time your buffs and dots and how often you remember to use support-skills. Thats all "people play different".
    But at somepoint its not "playing different" its "playing bad". Spamming aggro-combos when OT is playing bad, not "different".
    As RDM you can play different in the sense of starting with your Thunder/Fire-casts or Stone/Wind - starting with your melee-combo and only hitting that while never touching your casts is not "playing different", its playing bad.

    ...there is a huge difference between having a slightly different, but legit approach at a class and just plainly ignoring 70% of your skills and not really understanding the other 30%.
    Please - dont go around and tell people who need to improve that its okay to play different, because then they'll feel validated.
    Tell them that its okay that they still need to learn - and if you can, help them with that!

    But while we can kick for something called "Difference in Playstyle" that doesnt mean that the person who got kicked for that just picked an approach the party didnt like - the real reason they got kicked might very well have been "horrible playstyle", but obviously SE cant say that.

    In short: Dont support bad playstyle or harrassing behaviour.
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  6. #216
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    if Making a reddit post is any better drawing more attention it's like all of you are obsessed with me, and to be fair i'm not too happy about my name not being blured, at least i was kind of enough to blur the persons name when they sent the message, after taking a day off the forums and also researching info about my class etc, all i ask now is to just let this thread die off there's not point to continueing it.
    You already knew what was going to happen. You even said this 6 months ago on a similar situation.
    Besides, trying to blur your name hoping that nobody would get the full story, who you are and what you did in the past is not something that plays in your favor. In fact, it makes things worse when people discover the truth.
    You made this thread to get the community's approval to blame someone for being mean to you. If you can't accept that you are also going to be put in the spotlight as well, then don't create these threads.

    Again, don't seek people's attention if you are not prepared to get criticism for what you did, regardless of what you want to complain about. You can't just expect people to go your way and pity you, without having them trying to find the full story to see if pity is indeed deserved or not.

    Remember it next time you feel the need to start a drama on the forums.

    Edit: Not gonna do another post.
    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    I never was griefing or harassing
    What is being said is that this is how other people feel when they play with you. And since you are being unresponsive to people telling you what to do or not do, it reinforce their feeling. And when people start seeing you basically as a troll, while you claim that you aren't one, then it's time for you to consider the fact that you are doing something very wrong for them to think that way about you.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 09-29-2018 at 04:44 AM.

  7. #217
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    MirielleLavandre's Avatar
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    I do hope that the OP has more success with PLD, but it looks like they boosted a DRK and so that's a whole new can of worms. My advice would be that DRK will require even more effort than PLD, and to just try to stick with PLD, learn the OT rotations, etc. instead of embarking on a whole new tanking style with DRK - but then again, it isn't my $25 ^_^v Good luck, however, and though I don't agree with your hubris or lack of responsibility taking, I admire your will to continue in a tank role.
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  8. #218
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    xMysticx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    There is a difference between "people playing different" and "people playing in a way that prevents the rest of the party to clear the content in question".

    I suppose you're trying to be nice to the OP here and I agree with letting that insult slide (or just reporting it silently) being not to bad of an advice, seeing how this got blown out of proportion a bit, but the subtext of "Just do what you want and dont care what people say" is really bad advice, specially in this case.
    I dont know if you went through the whole thread, but you basically just told someone who was offtanking, yet in tankstance and spamming their aggro-combo, stealing the boss from the actual maintank, then proceded to place the boss in a manner that turned 90% of the arena into "the floor is actual lava that will kill you" instead of only about 50% and consequently caused a wipe - while also not responding to anything his party said to him... and you told that someone that its okay to just play differently.

    People did not "didnt like him", because he was playing a Roegadyn or because of his glamour, but because of his actions which were directly harmful to the success of their run. His actions already appear as griefing and harrassing - add silly emote-spam to it, and I can only hope the GMs will see it the same way. That party would have been better off if he left them to their fate, because that fate could have easly been: Get a tank in who knows basic gameplay at level 70 and clear the raid.

    If people in a run didnt like me, my first thought would be "Okay, what could be the reason for that?" and only after I have definitly established that the fault doesnt lie with me - if anything, by asking my party if they'd like me to change anything about the way I'm handling stuff right now - I'll conclude that they are a bunch of jerks who can look for a new tank/healer now.
    Dont get on a high horse before you've figured out if you actually belong there - making fun of people who are legit upset about you because you're the one whos wiping them or making them all work an awful lot harder is the absolute worst thing to do in such a situation, because it shows that you lack one fundamental skill thats required for any group-content: team-work.
    I never was griefing or harassing, nor did i emote spam now your just flat out lying, if you have a personal vendetta against me i suggest not in forums, i'm just gonna go ahead and agree with redcurrant18 because at this point it's silly to continue this.
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    Last edited by xMysticx; 09-29-2018 at 04:08 AM.

  9. #219
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by xMysticx View Post
    if Making a reddit post is any better drawing more attention it's like all of you are obsessed with me, and to be fair i'm not too happy about my name not being blured, at least i was kind of enough to blur the persons name when they sent the message, after taking a day off the forums and also researching info about my class etc, all i ask now is to just let this thread die off there's not point to continueing it.
    Consider this, what was discovered was so hilariously bad it became entertainment for two huge communities. That's not something that should be swept under the rug, that's the birth of a legend.

    Embrace your legend. You've certainly earned it three times over, and have personally worked to boost your image with such classic one-liners like "I have 250 commendations, I know what I'm doing."

    I merely regret I wasn't there to see any of this in person. People are focusing on Omega, and I wish I was there, but I *really* wish I'd been a fly on the wall for Rabinastre.

    Like I said before though, fire your free company for failing you this badly. They're terrible for letting you get this far in this condition. And oh dear goodness, learn to take advice and criticism to heart or you'll inevitably be entertainment again.
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  10. #220
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    Consider this, what was discovered was so hilariously bad it became entertainment for two huge communities. That's not something that should be swept under the rug, that's the birth of a legend.

    Embrace your legend. You've certainly earned it three times over, and have personally worked to boost your image with such classic one-liners like "I have 250 commendations, I know what I'm doing."

    I merely regret I wasn't there to see any of this in person. People are focusing on Omega, and I wish I was there, but I *really* wish I'd been a fly on the wall for Rabinastre.

    Like I said before though, fire your free company for failing you this badly. They're terrible for letting you get this far in this condition. And oh dear goodness, learn to take advice and criticism to heart or you'll inevitably be entertainment again.
    Actually no one is firing anyone, i'm actually good friends with my fc leader ingame and outside of the game, thanks
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