How would an optional, official parser be toxic?

[SilverObi]

I don't think there's any way to make it optional. People would be pressured into using it by the community.

That just doesn't cut it as an excuse anymore. The community pressures meta into content that doesn't need it but that doesn't stop people from completing said content. There is a wide pool of people to play with and if a group or two won't let you in without showing your personal parses, then find other players with less stringent criteria to join. Having the ability to easily check your dps is something most players would have an idle curiosity in and making those numbers accessible is fine.

[Aylis]

Perhaps one day, there'll be a third-party parser for ps4 if it ever should be possible.

Sadly it won't be possible without an okay from SE, that's only due to how the PS4 works. It would be a direct mod add on and something that would need to be downloaded and installed via the PSN. The creator would need to get a license from SE to have permission to modify their game. Which would cost the creator money no doubt if SE even says yes in the first place.

I know console hacking is a thing so it could be possible to work around it but that could open up a new world of trouble. I don't know how strict Sony is with console modding and jailbreaking but if they are as strict as other companies then when the console calls home for a firmware update it could detect you've done something and in turn brick the console.

[KaivaC]

I would only support an official parser, ONLY if it were PRIVATE, meaning only you can see your own damage meter and that nobody else had access to it. I don't want to join some 4-man and get kicked because I'm doing too low damage on some job in some leveling roulette or something crazy like that.

This right here is what I would be fine with. Some folks may say that this is a dead horse, but I'm certainly not the only one that keeps bringing it up, and the OF is definitely not the only place that it does come up. I am fine with a private meter because us console players and those whose PCs can't support having multiple things up at once would benefit from it if they chose to use it. Anybody pressuring others into sharing their numbers should be immediately reported - simple as that, along with everything else. Though admittedly, the reason I'm bringing it up today is because I'm tired of assuming that I'm the bad player in the group - without having the numbers to show whether that is true or not. But having official numbers would still be beneficial because it's better than having nothing at all. So yes, I agree with having this, Maeka.

[SilverObi]

Though admittedly, the reason I'm bringing it up today is because I'm tired of assuming that I'm the bad player in the group - without having the numbers to show whether that is true or not. But having official numbers would still be beneficial because it's better than having nothing at all.

Frankly, any player who cares that much to give half a damn about their contribution most likely won't be the bad in the group... Unless you're entirely new to a fight or using a whole new job in familiar fight, it's unlikely you're the sole contributor to a bad performance or a wipe (depending on your role anyway). And yes there's always the tiny doubt that you're the one at fault and you can't be 100% sure without the hard numbers to convince you but putting in actual effort almost guarantees you'll outperform a lot of the standard playerbase.

[reiichi]

The only situation in which I'd accept a parser in game was if it worked like the duty recorder. All people must agree to it beforehand and it's only there for "high-end" duties where that sort of above-average gameplay is really needed.

In regular content, it's already easy enough to tell whether a single person or a group aren't pulling their weight. We don't need to attach a number to it. If someone is honestly trying to improve their ability to play the game, there are already plenty of posts with advice and guides. There are plenty of theorycrafters who've worked out rotations and melds for equipment.

And as with any feature, we know people would find a way to abuse it, as with any feature. I find the cons of parsing to be greater than their supposed benefit.

[Alestorm]

have you ever played WoW? unless you want the FF14 community to turn toxic the last thing this game needs is a dps meter

What's really funny is it's either the guys who knows he's top on the charts with "what's my damage? my meter's aren't working" or the guy on the bottom getting carried blaming everyone else for the fight taking too long for them and he knows full well why.'

I wouldn't mind the idea of a personal parser being added to Land, Sea and Sky to get an idea, but one built into group content wouldn't end well.

[RuleofThree]

I don't think there's any way to make it optional. People would be pressured into using it by the community.

You already are pressured into using it. If you don't meet dps requirements on any jobs. you don't get to raid in a static regularly. You are stuck with Party Finder, and that not a fun option.

[Legion88]

The only situation in which I'd accept a parser in game was if it worked like the duty recorder. All people must agree to it beforehand and it's only there for "high-end" duties where that sort of above-average gameplay is really needed.

This, but with the full analysing features of fflogs please, i don't care about the rankings, just the analysing.

To be honest i don't fear more toxicity. What is the worst that could happen? Writing more reports and i'm not even sure for this.

[Musashidon]

yoshi p is 100% against parsers. it's not that they can't or unable to they flat won't.

they are so against them that add on's are on permanent hiatus due to players being able to make parsers with it.

a long time ago it was determined the cons out way the pros with parsers (dev wise)

[Hyperia]

People either consciously or subconsciously are always trying to rank themselves against others. Because of that, they will tend to make decisions about a person only by their numbers and not any other factor. When I played wow and had a parser, I found myself subconsciously saying this person is bad because they are doing half the dps of the other dps. When I got away from parsers by coming here, I adopted this philosophy: If the boss is dead, we had fun, got our goodies and had a good time... who cares what they parsed.uou rise and fall as a team, there are more than enough tools to identify payers having a problem in this game.

If we really want an official parser, let’s try this: Create the Hall of the Raider and have that room use the official parser while you work on the dummy with RNG events happening around you. You can work on your rotation while dealing with random mechanics. They wouldn’t be too intense but the random mechanics would simulate a raiding run to a degree.