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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I see your point. You don't see ours at all. We are discussing ui design and you're harping on about OP over and over and over...

    We know what happened to OP is very eyebrow raising. OP admitted this himself. No one is saying otherwise. But it does highlight the fact that demolition is more or less a hidden mechanic in the game, and new players would be especially vulnerable to this bad design. But I don't think you care about this at all. You care about showing everyone how stupid you think OP is. The quality of the game just doesn't enter your mind. You want to ridicule someone, not discuss the game.
    You see part of it.. but thats on me cause I didn't make it clear enough. This case SE can't fix, putting your playtime in the title was a no go. I'm never goign to go - oh you have 1860 days clearly it's ok for you not to know -insert hot topic here- And because of that I can't see how SE could fix THAT. I don't think they can. Cause it's a user error. Yeah pointing at issues like the timers being hidden is all well and good.. but hear me out. That wasn't the problem. He never entered his house in 45 plus 80 days. If he had we wouldn't be here now would we? And you can tell me - he didn't have time- I dunno if I buy that.. it literally only takes a few seconds to load in and go inside. It just looks like he didn't give a damn until it was already gone. and from that point.. how is SE posed to fix that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    And you can tell me - he didn't have time- I dunno if I buy that.. it literally only takes a few seconds to load in and go inside. It just looks like he didn't give a damn until it was already gone. and from that point.. how is SE posed to fix that?
    Oof. They said they only had time to do a couple of things each day, and the reason they didn't go inside their house is because they didn't know about the demolition...
    They did care about it, but they were at a point in their life where it was put in the backburner. Not because they didn't care.

    The way you are chastising OP makes me feel you only care about making them look bad at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raskbuck View Post
    Oof. They said they only had time to do a couple of things each day, and the reason they didn't go inside their house is because they didn't know about the demolition...
    They did care about it, but they were at a point in their life where it was put in the backburner. Not because they didn't care.

    The way you are chastising OP makes me feel you only care about making them look bad at this point.
    I dunno man, I can't understand it.. LITERALLY I can't. It's taking alot for me to picture someone willing to brave gettign a house in 4.2 and never entering itt for whatever reason but doing all the events and buying housing items. I'm sorry.. I just can't wrap my head around it. It still makes no sense to me they played for so long and didn't know about the demo timers. It literally doesn't not comute in my head. :c But I'mma bow out cause I don't get it.. it doesn't make sense to me... and to me it just looks like they didn't care. So I'm out. Sorry for the trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    You see part of it.. but thats on me cause I didn't make it clear enough. This case SE can't fix
    We know...that's partially why we're not talking about only OP anymore. We want the ui improved to help people in the future. The demolition mechanic being unclear helps no one.

    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Yeah pointing at issues like the timers being hidden is all well and good.. but hear me out. That wasn't the problem. He never entered his house in 45 plus 80 days. If he had we wouldn't be here now would we? And you can tell me - he didn't have time- I dunno if I buy that.. it literally only takes a few seconds to load in and go inside. It just looks like he didn't give a damn until it was already gone. and from that point.. how is SE posed to fix that?
    Ah I think I see your actual problem. Your problem isn't that he didn't know about the timer. It's that he had a house and in your eyes he didn't use it enough, and now you think it's selfish of him to complain that it was taken from him.

    So now I wonder, are you a player who is bitter that they don't have a house? Or is it that the bitterness from not having one before never quite went away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    We know...that's partially why we're not talking about only OP anymore. We want the ui improved to help people in the future. The demolition mechanic being unclear helps no one.



    Ah I think I see your actual problem. Your problem isn't that he didn't know about the timer. It's that he had a house and in your eyes he didn't use it enough, and now you think it's selfish of him to complain that it was taken from him.

    So now I wonder, are you a player who is bitter that they don't have a house? Or is it that the bitterness from not having one before never quite went away?
    I WAS out until that last statement. Because I literally said this right? I'm not jealous of whatever his hosue was. You looking to start fights? Cause thats how you start fights. I have a house, hell I had one on all my characters. I just deleted them for various reasons. Getting a house is NOT a problem. So before you go and start attaching bs might want to make sure it's within reason. I didn't isult you OR anyone in here. I'm just providing a diferent opinion if you can't handle THAT? maybe you should stop. The reason I pointed that number out was cause 45 days is the timer tyou have before they demo your house. He never enter so his house is demo... and you have 80 days AFTER THAT to get your shit right? He hasn't answered yet, but why not enter or get your stuff if it -MATTERED- at all? It looks like it didn't matter until now and now he wrote about it. And in my opinion if it mattered at all once again.. for the trillion and 6 time... none of this would've happened. Do you see my point now? Or are you just going claim I'm some jealopus kid who can't earn the gil to buy himself a freaking house cause I don't want to read what a person on the other side is saying?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    I WAS out until that last statement. Because I literally said this right? I'm not jealous of whatever his hosue was. You looking to start fights? Cause thats how you start fights.

    So before you go and start attaching bs might want to make sure it's within reason. I didn't isult you OR anyone in here. I'm just providing a diferent opinion if you can't handle THAT? maybe you should stop
    This is rich coming from someone who is constantly hijacking comments about ui to constantly remind us how OP messed up, how it's all his fault and that you will never be able to see it in any other way despite supposedly agreeing that the housing system isn't clearly defined in the game. Judging from other comments, I'm not the only one who has observed this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    This is rich coming from someone who is constantly hijacking comments about ui to constantly remind us how OP messed up, how it's all his fault and that you will never be able to see it in any other way despite supposedly agreeing that the housing system isn't clearly defined in the game. Judging from other comments, I'm not the only one who has observed this.
    I also explained why. but you aren't reading.. you're just looking to insult cause I'm not blindly agreeing with you. I explained why I'm on the stance I'm on. And you keep throwing insults on this and that, saying I'm not reading. When you haven't read shit I said. Cause if you did you wouldn't be throwing insults like some emotional child. Funny how I had decent replies from everyone EVEN THE FREAKING OP HIMSELF yet you is the one throwing insults. Tho you did that to other people i nthe beginning of this thread so shrug. Why ask you to change, not like asking SE to change is any different at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    I also explained why. but you aren't reading.. you're just looking to insult cause I'm not blindly agreeing with you.
    I am reading. I'm reading you responding to comments about improving the ui with your opinion on OP. Going on about how he should have read third party sources all the time doesn't really help when people are talking about in-game ui. OP's problem stems from the in-game housing information being poorly displayed. But you seem disinclined to discuss that and would rather just constantly remind us that he messed up.

    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    I explained why I'm on the stance I'm on. And you keep throwing insults on this and that, saying I'm not reading. When you haven't read shit I said.
    Well honestly I really disliked the way you were expressing your opinions about OP. You kept stressing as to how everything was his fault despite so many people telling you that he cannot google something if he has no reason to think he will get his items deleted. When people were discussing why the ui is bad you kept barging in with how everything is OP's fault. You really appeared to be on a mission to make sure everyone knew he deserved what he got.

    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Cause if you did you wouldn't be throwing insults like some emotional child. Funny how I had decent replies from everyone EVEN THE FREAKING OP HIMSELF yet you is the one throwing insults. Tho you did that to other people i nthe beginning of this thread so shrug.
    I see. It's insulting to point out that your posts suggest you're very fixated on highlighting OP's faults that it almost looks personal, rather than putting your thoughts on improving the game in a positive manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I am reading. I'm reading you responding to comments about improving the ui with your opinion on OP. Going on about how he should have read third party sources all the time doesn't really help when people are talking about in-game ui. OP's problem stems from the in-game housing information being poorly displayed. But you seem disinclined to discuss that and would rather just constantly remind us that he messed up.



    Well honestly I really disliked the way you were expressing your opinions about OP. You kept stressing as to how everything was his fault despite so many people telling you that he cannot google something if he has no reason to think he will get his items deleted. When people were discussing why the ui is bad you kept barging in with how everything is OP's fault. You really appeared to be on a mission to make sure everyone knew he deserved what he got.



    I see. It's insulting to point out that your posts suggest you're very fixated on highlighting OP's faults that it almost looks personal, rather than putting your thoughts on improving the game in a positive manner.
    So how am I posed to take this then? I honestly think had he did his homework he'll have his stuff. I don't think anything SE could've done would've saved his stuff. Nothing that I read is leading me i nthe other opinion. Cause we all had to go out of game for something, that's just how it is. It just looks like he didn't care. Sorry if that's how I feel on what I read but it is. No insults, just my bare rare opinion of it. I only been here cause my opinion was and still is, none of this would've happened to him had he read. Thats all. But when people reply I reply back and here we are. And the only thing ?I've said about op is that he didn't care from the way it sounds until it's too late. I never insulted him, matter of fact I even said he seems like a cool chill dude. Doesn't change my opinion on the topic at hand tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    And you can tell me - he didn't have time- I dunno if I buy that.. it literally only takes a few seconds to load in and go inside. It just looks like he didn't give a damn until it was already gone.
    You're mixing up action with knowledge. It only takes a few seconds to just go inside the house IF you know or suspect there is any reason to do so. OP didn't know about the demolition that SE doesn't provide any notification of. So she was basing it on whether there was time to do actual productive stuff in the house, redesign it or whatever, and whether that's what she wanted to spend her limited time on when she only had a short while to play. People only do the "step in to deactivate the timer" pattern if they know about the timer. That's why the bulk of this thread is about SE's terrible lack of notification.

    You keep saying that SE couldn't do anything about it, but SE was the one who failed to notify her first that there even is housing demolition, and then more importantly, that her house was nearing the point when it would be demolished if she didn't enter. If they'd done that, she could have prevented the loss.

    OP was interested in getting back to the house when her real life issues cleared up and she had time to enjoy it. She just wasn't spending time there when her time was limited and her attention elsewhere. Temporarily not using a feature doesn't mean you've lost interest in it.
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